Absolutely spot on. Ten years since indyref, and a plethora of nobodies, carpetbaggers and gender cultists in the SNP, principally Sturgeon, have trashed where we were. The SNP have become London’s little colonial enablers, playing England’s game by England’s rules. No vision, no drive, no sense of urgency about independence, happy to ride the gravy train for another ten years – until they all retire with their nice pensions and comfortable lives. Sitting watching as Scotland with oil reserves, has its only refinery shut down by England. Asset stripping writ large. The SNP, all talk, nae action, nae point.
Cut the candle, cut the rope.
We start again. All those in favour of independence say Aye.
Fareweel to a’ our Scottish fame,
Fareweel our ancient glory
Fareweel ev’n to the Scottish name,
Sae famed in martial story
Now Sark rins over Solway sands
An Tweed rins to the ocean
To mark where England’s province stands –
Sic a parcel o rogues in a nation!
What force or guile could not subdue
Through many warlike ages
Is wrought now by a coward few
For hireling ("Tractor" - Ed)’s wages
The English steel we could disdain
Secure in valour’s station
But English gold has been our bane –
Sic a parcel o rogues in a nation!
O would, or I had seen the day
That Treason thus could sell us,
My auld grey head had lien in clay
Wi Bruce and loyal Wallace!
But pith and power, till my last hour
I’ll mak this declaration
We’re bought and sold for English gold –
Sic a parcel o rogues in a nation!
…Robert Burns, 1791
Sturgeon’s rancid SNP – bought and sold for English/British gold since 2015. As for the Tartan Messiah herself, probably much earlier…
Sturgeon and her acolytes wrecked the Indy movement. We need more than hope to repair the damage done. Never again should we allow one political party to hijack our aspirations for independence.
14 September, 2024 at 10:14 am
We’ll rise again.
& Things look favourable on the International front too. Colonialism is over.
The 45%+ isn’t going away. We find a new vehicle, & this time Yessers, don’t fck it up by giving repeated mandates to a master deceiver or endless excuses for their inaction either.
Lessons have been learned.
The SNP has extinguished their own flame. Scotland certainly doesn’t require a fourth Unionist party or more devolution either (that can be removed at any time) Parking their arse in both parliaments doing nothing.
As for Sturgeon – she can look back over ten years in power (with five disastrous UK prime ministers) & ponder why she achieved the grand total of fck all. In typical narcissistic style she would favor a scorched earth approach. If she can’t have full control then no one can.
I remember her wee Tunnock’s teacakes story at an event after indyref. I hope his face is etched on her eyelids for eternity. Barsteward.
Onwards & upwards.
14 September, 2024 at 10:45 am
Yip Sturgeon the Judas f*cked us big time – doing a tremendous amount of damage to, not just the cause – but to Scotland as well.
She’ll, go down in Scottish history – as the female version of John de Menteith – a treacherous b*stard.
14 September, 2024 at 11:27 am
…….” Out, out, brief candle!
Life’s but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.”
There was never much ” fury ” from that ” idiot ” ( other than that directed at the man who showed them up for the total frauds that she & they are ) , just a succession of duplicitous soundbites .
All of them , indeed , ” signifying nothing “
14 September, 2024 at 12:59 pm
Robertson is a thoroughly bad piece of work.
As an ex BBC’s man, ex US National Public Broadcasting man in Vienna I think you can take it that he was connected to the dark state – and has been ever since. And what did he say to the Israel ambassador at his secret meeting. We’re never likely to find that out.
The guy is a plant, an establishment plant, a ("Quizmaster" - Ed), a fifth columnist. Well suited to nefarious scheming just like his odious wife the Lady Jennifer.
Cutting a long story short…
Gone are the most merciless days of yesteryear when they burnt us out (their brutal baillies loving the smell of “nae-hame in the morning”) and packed us onto creaking ships, or front-lined and cannon-foddered our ablest in their imperial wars.
Not quite so gone are the post 1872 Education Act innovations of first-day-at-school ear drops intended to make Scottish speech grate on us thereafter, and those weirdly magnetic nose sprays which somehow aligned our levels of skill with an inner compulsion to head South.
These latter more subtly intrusive practices had at least moved on from the horrendously barbaric. But in recent years it has become disturbingly evident that a sputtering Scottish candle of hope has yet again been threatening to flame up with indomitable ancient light. Utterly unacceptable of course. Some ultimate manoeuvre has become necessary to reinstate benign British darkness – that ever-alluring black velvet. Some final geostationary eclipse required. There must be an endless and starless Scottish night with no disquieting (and costly) false dawns possible ever again…
So Scotland is now undergoing a radically invasive medical intervention. A barely covert operation which entirely flaunts the already well-shredded “first do no harm” injunction. To be specific, Scotland’s feeble and failing heart is being excised and will be unceremoniously binned in that black bag in the corner with the contamination symbol on it (and statutory Union Jack, needless to say). This will be terminal, obviously. There will be no transplant.
Well, actually, the unsettling and more complex reality is that Scotland in its entirety (minus trashed inert heart) is ITSELF already being used as a life-saving enhancement for a neighbouring, seriously ailing, body politic.
Throughout the ongoing operation all vital functions are of course being minutely monitored. An array of masked MSM anaesthetists of long experience are at work, intuiting what each moment prompts. Should the patient’s eyes flicker momentarily open in delirious alarm at expiring functionality [“Grangemouth Syndrome” in current jargon], then haze quickly redescends as the ever-attentive MSM team tweak requisite analgesic levels.
Please do not deem them malign. They harbour no ill-intention. Spurn all such thoughts. Though, of course, to paraphrase another’s shrewd double-negative, if they didn’t believe what they believe, they wouldn’t be sat there scrubbed-up.
We must also bear in mind in mitigation that ultimate operational decisions are being taken in a deep location far from the current scene (via the wonders of modern nano-surveillance technology).
Scotland will not wake up. That’s the nub. The faint still poignantly pulsing white light of its deepest inner consciousness will flicker a few times and then flatline forever. Scotland will be finally, definitively, irrevocably, switched off. The ensuing silence may raise a pang for a moment or two. Or even three. (And I suspect a few muffled indecorous cheers may be just audible through that forgotten intercom over there). But Scotland’s ultimate (if inadvertent) sacrifice will not have been in vain if its good neighbour breathes strong and hearty again. (Surely I hear even now a nobly soaring British anthem in the making…and fitly written by some proud Scot among us?)
I happen to notice on the operation theatre door (my attention wandering during the procedure) a discoloured ‘BETTER TOGETHER’ sign (was that name always ironic?) being taken down and replaced by the more enigmatic and somehow coldly ominous term ‘RESET’.
What to make of it all…?
Shug @ 12:13 pm
“Nicola crashed indy. Was she a stupid narsissist or was she compromised. Whats your thoughts”
Probably both, according to postcolonial theory:
14 September, 2024 at 11:34 pm
A little bird told me at the iMax that there is a trainload of troubles incoming for the Greens.
Hopefully someone will post an archive.is link to the Sunday Mail website which will have the details.
15 September, 2024 at 10:31 am
Auld Highlander
The USA made amendments to the contract regarding nukes & the UK government allowed it without any parliament scrutiny. They’re making sure Trump can’t change it in case he is voted in.
Their *review every ten yrs* has been upgraded to *permanent* but they prefer *on an enduring basis* double speak & a UK commitment to modernise it’s nukes at a cost to the rest of us. The joys of NATO membership .
Also to cover corrupt U payments, any defaults & to be guarantor. Permanently. For money they’ve hee-haw chance of repaying.
Also to help Yahoo continue geno-cide. Permanently.
Until …as long as it takes.
Smashing eh? All warring that’s fck all to do with the UK & it’s own litany problems & even less to do with Scotland who aren’t even consulted.
15 September, 2024 at 11:46 am
Calls for ERCC boss Sandy Brindley to go – Maggie Chapman needs to be held to account as well.
@ Hatey at 11.49
…Starmer decided payment of extra dosh to old people who don’t really need it should stop..
(emphasis added)
The problem, as I suspect you know quite well, is that the threshold for deciding who “really needs it” has been set far too low.
Of course it’s administratively convenient to link it to an existing means-tested benefit, but any person in receipt of the full state pension is ineligible for pension credit, even though the UK pension is, as a percentage of median earnings, one of the meanest in Europe (the continent; not the EU). Even taking into account “perks” such as bus passes, free prescriptions in England, free eye tests, and so on, it is still well below estimates of what is needed to survive. Many pensioners’ only income is the state pension.
That is the issue, not whether millionaires should receive a top-up they’ll barely notice.
“Nicola crashed indy. Was she a stupid narsissist or was she compromised.”
Shug @12.13pm.
Definitely compromised – as Craig Murray has said the English security services -which are an enemy of Scots – has ALL the WhatsApp messages of Sturgeon’s and her vile treacherous cliques to boot – ask yourself why haven’t these surely incriminating messages, been released to the public – or any inquiry.
Also I’d image the foreign security services on the Thames – and at Hubble road – have a fair bit of compromising dirt on many of Sturgeon’s clique – of which a D-Notice has surely been issued to the ever salivating unionist media – to not reveal the amount sleaze her, and her clique have committed since 2015.
Sturgeon – has done tremendous damage, to not just the cause – but to Scotland – do you actually believe this amount of damage is accidental or due to incompetence?
crazycat
Ignored says:
15 September, 2024 at 1:47 pm
@ Hatey at 11.49
” …Starmer decided payment of extra dosh to old people who don’t really need it should stop.. ”
Only a imbecilic Tory like yon would try to propagate the idea that only millionaire pensioners are having the little help they were receiving to mitigate the unconstrained greed of Energy Corps & their lickspittle political Yes-Men stopped .
My 3 brothers who worked all their lives n never claimed a penny in State Benefits , whose wages all those years were spent trying to provide a decent standard of living for their children are amongst the millions who will suffer because of this horrific * Labour * Gov’s depredations .
” don’t really need it ” . And how-the-fuck would that bam know what people in the last 3rd of their lives need ? Clown
16 September, 2024 at 12:51 am
Geri @ 11.37pm
Thing is, going by Swinneys dull as dishwater performance today and the outpouring from the party before country clique that were WELL warned (and abused for our efforts) in advance in the National today then it’s time to demolish the rotten house and start from scratch again.
No more whining about “the only party that will realistically achieve independence” crap, they disappeared in panto dame guise long ago..
There’s only one way to get a phoenix from the ashes – and that involves serious vetting the independence party/ movement born out of this chaos for the latch on ticks of political travellers and perverts who have disgusted and let down the ones that matter most whom they manifestly regularly disdain- the electorate.
Them and their happy clappers; a special place in hell and all that..
Where have all the night owls gone? I look forward to at least ten comments from through the night with my morning coffee.
@Dorothy Devine (8.59) –
Aye, traffic is thin these days.
Hard to tell if folk are generally scunnered or have just run out of things to say about the cul-de-sac we’re in.
Again and again we come back to the disgraceful stalling re Branchform and the sheltering of the main players. Until that’s resolved it’s hard to see any forward movement.
16 September, 2024 at 10:15 am
BTL content has been diminishing for months now because pretty much all attempts at discourse tends to (and has been allowed to) be continually steered into low brow adversarial bickering before it even gets a chance to develop into something decent and worthwhile.
If folk just want to read the output others contribute and not add anything to the discussions themselves, then why should anybody continue to waste their precious time trying to post content in an attempt to stimulate discussions.
Stop being mere observers and start being worthy contributors would be my suggestion if folk actually want this place to be busier.
Pissing around on fucking facebook and twitter / x in bubbles that hardly anyone can view because those sites are shite and control content and speech and are the very corporate powers that we want to be free from, or post on what is supposedly the biggest site relating to returning Scotland to self-governance and has a far more open policy on what can be stated and has the potential to reach a wider audience.
Sitting waiting on the current embedded powers that be to resolve matters that are clearly in their interests to sit on and drag out is crazy behaviour.
Take the power back by the simple process of developing a range of sensible policies which will be a no-brainer for the electorate to be supportive of, and once sensible folk empowered by the electorate regain control, then common sense and decency will hopefully prevail again and we’ll have a far better chance of flushing away the malignant corruption we currently have across many facets of our society.
Work towards the Scottish people having :
Better control of our executive, our legislature, and our judiciary – Because they are a shit state at the moment
Better control of our fiscal matters – Because they are a shit state at the moment
Better control or our energy resources – Because they are a shit state at the moment
Better control of our immigration policy – Because they are a shit state at the moment
Better control of our education curriculum – Because they are a shit state at the moment
Better control of our health and social services – Because they are a shit state at the moment
Better control of our trade arrangements – Because they are a shit state at the moment
Better control of our environment – Because they are a shit state at the moment
16 September, 2024 at 12:01 pm
My father’s wish of seeing Scottish independence before he dies was suddenly lost, when he departed his mortal coil last week in Aberdeen Royal Infirmary.
Dad was a 24/7 carer for my mother, who is currently bed-ridden and alone in their home, unable to even use a telephone.
I’ve spent the past three weeks witnessing first-hand the utter shambles of the Social Care system and the NHS, both of which have been telling me that there are simply no resources available for this kind of thing.
Meanwhile, I am reading about INEOS, the ineptitude and costs of HS2, government ministers in Westminster with fingers in the till etc.
One of the social care team actually said to me that my mother would receive more care if I took her down to Aberdeen beach, wrapped her head in a scarf, placed her in a dingy and pushed her out into the North Sea.
Ten years on from the IndyRef, things could have been so different. I told people at the time that we might well have a tough five years ahead when we win. I genuinely believed that after a decade of independence, we’d be seeing the shoots and fruits of the struggle. It would have been so worth it.
I will not rest until I see Sturgeon and her deviant cabal behind bars, but I fear they are the shape of things to come, regardless.
Re: Sturgeon – narcissist or compromised?
An ex SNP MP told me about 5 years ago that Sturgeon had opened an Offshore account in the Cayman Islands. Apparently this is common knowledge at Holyrood.
Why would she need that – was it forward planning for tax reasons for her takings for sales of her ‘best selling book’, or her columns bumming up Tony Bliar in the Guardian?
Or perhaps it was to hide away the bribes and backhanders she has taken, as she sold us out.
That’s what these types of arrangements are for, isn’t it? Criminal Enterprise. Backroom deals. Untraceable payments from shadowy sources.
Where’s Wikileaks when you need them, oh…
Well it was an easy prediction – that the Empire Games aka the Colonial Games, aka the Commonwealth Games – would end up being foisted upon Glasgow, Scotland, no other nation on the planet wants these now defunct games, they epitomise colonialism – so they had to come to Colonial Scotland – where they would be rubber stamped by the House Jocks – and English gatekeepers, parachuted into prominent positions in Scotland and Glasgow – both control colonial Scotland – in the best interests of our Southern neighbour namely England.
I went to the Independence event in the Glasgow Science Centre on Saturday. I took the train and walked past the Hope over Fear event in George Square. I counted about 100 people but it was heavy rain and the main speakers had left. I confirm foreign flags were being waved. Because of other family celebratory commitments I went on my own. I needed have been so concerned. I met lot’s of Independence supporters from all over the country and they were very pleasant. I thought the Independence movement was alive but with a new sense of realism. Its been a hard ten years. Stu was on good form, not many people can make Alex Salmond feel uncomfortable. Well worth the money.
Republicofscotland
Ignored
says:
16 September, 2024 at 7:56 pm
… limited innovation, high energy prices and skills gaps – etc. and, of course, the overarching economic crisis in Europe with no end in sight.
Thing is, it isn’t actually an industrial decline, it is literally the consequence of 5 decades of Neoliberal insanity which wilfully and deliberately sought to de-industrialise Western skills and productivity, and draw it’s sustinence trading commodities from poor countries who’s governments could be bought, and democratising eye watering levels of debt spread out over the whole population that was suckered into believing they needed a huge mortgage on houses thrown up using sellotape and cardboard.
The only industry now capable of bringing in foreign capital, that is, something which is more than paper money, is the manufacture of weapons for export.
Problem is, these overpriced western weapons look increasingly like overpriced western housing, – over engineered garbage. They’re getting themselves “deconstructed” with ease and much faster than they’re being replaced, and that’s paradoxically not good for sales, because even dodgy 3rd World dictators and murderers won’t pay top dollar for obsolete second rate munitions.
We’re sending missiles to the “U”, and I dunno, almost as if it’s like a quid pro quo basis, “somebody” is now giving the Houthis hypersonic missiles. Go figure…
Things must be uncredibly toxic that even the darkened soul of the UK has been obliged to limit “some” weapon sales to genocidal maniacs.
And how utterly deperate does it look trying to sell Storm Shadow as a V2 style Wunderwaffe that can turn the whole course of the war? But hey, why change the WW2 Tribute Act script now? We’ve already had Stalingrad 2, Kursk 2 and the forlorn equivalent of the Battle of the Bulge 2 rolled into one. All “Allied” victories you may recall and might want to think about…
Will there be a war? Jeezus I hope not, because right now, we’re on the wrong side, with “our” Top Brass looking dumber and more casual about our hollow and meaningless deaths than they did in WW1, only this time on the Armageddon Merry-go-Round, we’re allied to the Naz1s, fascists, rap1$ts and genocidal lunatics, and we’re arming them all…
Well nobody asked me about it, and frankly, I’m mightily fkd off about it.
What the fk is wrong with you Scotland? Maybe we’re already dead and all this soul destroying torture and Kafkaesque absurdity is merely life in Purgatory…
George Ferguson, Cherry has had more than ample opportunity over the last 10 years to explain why she NEVER exposed the deviance and perversion running rampant within the Scum Nonce Party, it never stopped her from challenging bojo on the prorogation of WM, though it only benefited the english but did nothing about Scots sovereignty
And to be quite honest as Geri says some of us are more interested in what the future holds for independence than raking over the failed history of 10 years ago, as far as I’m concerned Alex Salmond has spent the last 10 years telling us that IF we had the opportunity of another referendum he would still give the people who DENIED us our independence another chance to do it all again
It is the english who love living in the past with the we won the war churchill mentality, but soon we will be back to ration books and lard if Keir STARVER and company have their way, so what was decided that would stop that happening
I already commented previously that many on the list of Alex Salmonds guests consisted of people who were MP’s and MSP’s within the snp and sat COWARDLY by while sturgeon the betrayer did everything in her power to DESTROY independence are you now inferring that these people have suddenly found a SPINE from somewhere
George Ferguson
Ignored says:
16 September, 2024 at 11:18 pm
Lots of people commenting on every other issue in the World except Scottish Independence. Of course they are so interested in Scottish Independence none of them turned up to the 10 year event.
Get off your high horse George. I’ve been at every AUOB march I could make, whether it was 100k strong or 5k.
I’d have liked to be there, but I couldn’t because I have dependencies, housing and poverty issues to contend with, plus I might have spoiled the atmosphere by lambasting the panel for their feeble and lacklustre backing for SALVO.
Don’t get me wrong, I remain “encourage” first, lambast second in attitude, and for all I know from not being there, maybe SALVO was adequately discussed. Somehow I doubt it.
I continue to believe the likes of Salmond and Cherry are not a spent force, and their best is yet to come, but frankly, they’re allowing themselves to resemble a spent force. , which leaves SALVO as the only show in town with potency and direction.
As for global politics, we’re galloping towards a stupid, futile and wholly unnecessary war, shackled to one of the principal warmongering architects responsible for making it happen. I can think of no more honourable thing to do than for Scotland to bring the United Kingdom to
an end, now, and the ramifications of that might just be enough to destabilise the lunatic cabal running NATO.
The EU needs to expel its Neoliberal Warmongers too, and rediscover the EU’s primary raison d’etre; NOT an economic powerhouse, but a vehicle for peaceful and prosperous coexistence. It isn’t NATO which needed to expand East, but the EU should have embraced normalised relations with “R” back in the 1990’s and none of this toxic bourach would ever have materialised. The yanks understood that all along, but surrendered their hearts to jealousy.
The US and UK’s collective backstabbing, duplicity, and fundamental malignancy have brought the planet to the brink of a nuclear Apocalypse.
Neoliberalism is a bigger threat to the world than communism and naz1sm combined. It is a disease which bleaches our societies of fulfilment and happiness, and leaves the great majority dispossessed of their wealth and stability so that our kids dare not start a family.
Centuries of Trades, Crafts, and intricate knowledge of human creativity has been junked in a couple of generations and treated as something worthless and obsolete. No fault of its own; our heavy industry was attacked by the vampires of neoliberalism and drained of its life force.
Yes, Scotland needs Independence, but more, the whole world needs Scotland’s timely Independence, and with luck, a restorative elixir to cure our diseased societies of Neoliberalism.
Was that discussed by the panel?
Breeks @ 9.18 & 6.29
Even by yr own stellar standards , those are two outstanding posts , compadre .
Our ( decent ) politicians & known n trusted commentators should be organising n leading public demonstrations , talks ,marches ( before they ban them completely ) around an Anti-War * flag * .
Let the message be unequivocal : Independence = Liberation from the Colonial yoke AND Liberation from the rabid Dogs of War that are dragging us to hell ; all the while gibbering utter pish about * Democracy * as they erase every trace of that concept from the people they are meant to serve .
If they’re such great advocates of Democracy , put it to the test – have a vote on it . Ask the people if they support bringing the World to it’s possible end ; show them the full horror of War ( never difficult to find examples ) , show them the exploded heads , mangled torsos , show them the lumps of flesh that were once smiling children , tell them THAT will be their children/grandchildren , sons n daughters , oh and remind them the Government says ” sorry but we can’t afford to help old folk with their Winter fuel costs , you see these lovely new missiles are so terribly expensive ”
Tell them the fuckn Truth – for once . THEN ask them if they consent . THEN talk about Democracy
What Alex said to Fergus n Joanna told Phillipa in between sips of tea n the other Alex intimated to Dennis what he thought Tasmina said to Kirk regarding the quality of Michelle’s footwear …….Zzzzzz .
Being facetious here , but , really it all seems so irrelevant in the face of the – truly – existential threat of suicidal , annihilating stupidity
If after the past 10 years the Scottish electorate hold a lack of desire and urgency for returning Scotland to self-governing status, then it shows what a complete and utter abject failure our “leaders” of the Indy Movement have been in conveying the message and necessity that Scotland has to have full autonomy and control over our country to have any chance of improving matters.
If these supposed brightest and best individual political minds couldn’t come up with any coherent strategies, and then work to develop these initiatives with others to generate enthusiasm for the cause across Scottish society, then they really need to give themselves a reality shake and regain some self-awareness.
It’s a not too dissimilar situation to the idiots involved in trying to procure the build of a couple of ferries, and many years and hundreds of million quid spaffed later, they still continue screwing things up and think they are doing a good job.
Well said Breeks.
I said for years that Sturgeon & Co were sleepwalking us into being bedfellows to a fascist state & here we are, we’ve arrived. Dragged into all sorts of shit & warmongering actions with zero scrutiny in parliament & absolutely hee-haw input from its supposed partner to to the union.
The SNP had ten long years at the top with only ONE priority – to exit. Instead they fucked about with Brexshit, sexualizing children & making chums in Westminster.
If they’d had the balls to call a referendum or run a Westminster election as it was always intended to be (A majority WAS our immediate exit) we wouldn’t be in this mess because the whole house of cards would have collapsed – it even fucking told them so in the supreme Court ruling that it’d have had UK ramifications on the international stage because they’d no longer be the UK & their cost clubs.
Am I sorry I missed a good laugh at our expense? No. I don’t need to be there. I’ve heard it all already. They took the electorate for absolute mugs & deliberately let advantage slip & momentum die & all while being front row observers to the shit show that was careering towards us & an English government never tired of making them look absolute amateurs & timorous wee beasties even in the face of breaking International laws, exiting the EU & being democracy deniers the SNP still didn’t get off their arse.
If they were all elected again they’d do it all over again.
Suddenly Joanna is an expert ‘with constitutional knowledge & ability’ That’s news to all of us. She kept that well hidden for ten years eh? Has she teamed up with Salvo/Liberation or is the salary not to her liking? There’s plenty to do if she’s interested in Scottish independence that doesn’t require a seat in parliament. Let’s see what she chooses.
<Dan: "If these supposed brightest and best individual political minds couldn’t come up with any coherent strategies, and then work to develop these initiatives with others to generate enthusiasm for the cause across Scottish society, then they really need to give themselves a reality shake…"
Spot on. The number of times in the last couple of years we’ve concluded that “oh well, there are some really clued up people still in there and surely they’ll be working on ways to get back on track with gaining independence…”
You hope and you keep hoping. Eventually you realise this is exactly what went wrong after 2014, that so many of us naïvely assumed there was a plan and it’s all in good hands and would become clear when the time’s right.
Waiting now for anyone who was there on Saturday night to report that there really is a plan. But as Alf Baird has (thankfully) repeated: unless the stalwarts acknowledge the colonial reality, they won’t get us out of this. The fact that hearts are in the right place isn’t really enough.
17 September, 2024 at 10:23 am
Dan
“If these supposed brightest and best individual political minds couldn’t come up with any coherent strategies, and then work to develop these initiatives with others to generate enthusiasm for the cause across Scottish society, then they really need to give themselves a reality shake…”
I’d go further & say that is yet more deception.
Scotland voted repeatedly for Scottish independence.
Scotland also overwhelming voted to remain in the EU.
The UK even held an opinion poll on the state of the union & didn’t like the results they received so locked it away as a matter of ‘national security’ & point blank refused a referendum. That tells us everything we need to know – they’d have lost it. Especially after all the Devo max bullshit of 2014 that never materialised & a Tory party not only intent on perpetual austerity ideology but fixing parliament & all it’s official offices to have perpetual English rule.
Now we have Biden ‘amend’ the nuclear agreement to have nukes on the Clyde indefinitely. Not a single consultation with Scotland.
I think the nonsense Scotland doesn’t have a majority already is absolute horseshit. If they were that confident they’d have allowed a section 30 to finally put the constitutional question to bed.
Thousands marched on the streets & not everyone was an SNP supporter. So their personal polling was fck all to do with them acting or not. They had a majority of seats & did absolutely hee-haw. Not even a bit of Devo did they manage to squeeze out of WM & the Smith commission was a fcking insult to Scotland who’d just rattled the establishment to its knees.
I’m not buying the no majority pish the same way I’m not buying they’re beavering away in the background for Indy. They had their chances, multiple chances, & kicked the can. Insulting every single person who voted for them, who marched for them & who knocked on doors to get them elected for them to turn up & start swanning around Westminster taking up pet projects no one voted for.
17 September, 2024 at 10:27 am
SteepBrae @ 9:33 am
“unless the stalwarts acknowledge the colonial reality, they won’t get us out of this”
Yes, that is the harsh but now increasingly obvious reality. The people have to understand their colonial condition:
17 September, 2024 at 10:32 am
Rab
I’ve also read the repeated warnings regarding Grangemouth & Freeports & it definitely will be miraculously saved but under new management & within the Freeport zone therefore out of Scotlands hands.
I’d be interested in hearing if that was discussed too.
17 September, 2024 at 11:18 am
@ Rab and Geri
Freeports were not discussed at the IMax gathering, at least not during the main event. I have no idea what was talked about afterwards when people carried on meeting informally. Grangemouth was mentioned, though.
The event over-ran, so hardly any of the questions submitted by the audience were dealt with.
17 September, 2024 at 11:55 am
crazycat @ 11:18 am
“I have no idea what was talked about”
It probably was not about the ‘colonial condition’:
Dealing effectively with the colonial ‘condition’ requires difficult treatment; liberation is the only remedy and takes effect through decolonization (i.e. independence). In order to ensure the colonized’s complete cure “his alienation must completely cease” (Memmi), for which the total disappearance of colonization, including the ending of cultural assimilation procedures (i.e. colonial education, media, institutional etc.) is necessary. If, on the other hand, colonialism is permitted to continue, the associated psychological effects can only worsen, as will the economic and political impacts; in addition, “the risk of conflict will increase” (Memmi).
So Lammy snuck of to U with big fat cheque worth £600 million quid – on the orders of Starmer, who has cut pensioners Winter Fuel Payments – to date consecutive UK governments have given U (Since 2022) – almost £13 billion quid.
Meanwhile, Starmer will slash and burn funding to public services – whilst he’s pledged to support U to the bitter end – whatever that may be – and give U £3 billion quid a year (Announced on the 10th of July 2024).
“This would be monstrous in itself. He saves £1.1 billion, but the very next day the British Foreign Secretary, David Lammy, went to Ki-e-v and handed over another £600 million of our money, half the saving of the winter fuel allowance.
And if that’s not an indication of two tier governance, I really don’t know what it is.”
Said MP – George Galloway.
To get the full list – of what UK taxpayers will be, and are currently being fleeced for, with U in mind; click the link below and look for my 4pm comment – which has the link in it.
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2024/09/some-truth-bombs-at-the-un/
The Z-io-mon-sters blow up intercepted pagers.
The English propaganda machine – the BBC – is carrying the story.
ITV’s news programme, also carrying the story.
“At least eight people have died and thousands are injured after handheld pagers, used by He–zb-ol–lah, exploded in Leb–an-on on Tuesday afternoon
The health ministry says 200 of those injured are in a critical condition, with a munition expert telling the BBC the devices were likely packed with up to 20 grams of military-grade high explosive.”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cwyl9048gx8t
Isn’t it quite telling really, that when Australia sees sense and starts unbinding the shackles that Scotland, Glasgow in fact, an SNP minority run council comes to the rescue for the Empire- sorry – Commonwealth games replete with hee haw funding from Gloriana Engerlund masquerading as the so called United Kingdom?
The SNP are done, British the lot of them.
Pity is so few have worked it out yet..
Yes 2014 Empire – sorry Commonweath – Games replete with UK money and Barrowman gaying up in the opening bizarre (sorry bazar) was meant to fool the hard of thinking that we still mattered in Engerlunds Empire (sorry Commonwealth)..
And all along auld Lizzie the lizard was too busy purring to crack a smile..
Ah days gone by eh?
It’ll be punting on the Thames and Beagling on the Downs next don’t you think Honest John??
Oh please do come..
This past week Rugby Union fans in the British Isles have been discussing a proposal, to merge England’s Gallagher Premiership and the United Rugby Championship, which includes clubs from Ireland, Italy, Scotland, South Africa and Wales, dropping the Italian and Spouth AFrican clubs and forming a British and Irish League.
The driving force for this is the fact the English clubs are running out of money, with three of their major clubs all going bust.
This week, in the first edition of their rugby blog “The Breakdown”, The Guardian tackled the issue. The BTL comments were interesting.
The majority of the contributors spotted immediately, the call for a B&I League was driven by the self-interest and desperation of the big English clubs, who are all skint and trying to find a way to survive.
But, even English contributors were urging the three Celtic nations: “Don’t trust the English – they will screw you for their own ends.”
If even the English can see this happening in sport – why cannot so-many Scots see the same thing in the more-important realm of politics? We really are our own worst enemies.
18 September, 2024 at 11:19 am
Well – ten years have past since Salmond tried to rid us of our English governments yolk – with indy in mind – we are now in a worse position than we were back then – Sturgeon the Judas having done a tremendous amount of damage – not just to the cause, but to Scotland as well.
I used wonder just how much shit Scots could take – before they stood-up and said enough is enough – with regards to political corruption in Scotland, and England’s government treating us like a colony – I’ve come to the conclusion that Scots can, and will take whatever amount of shite, that oor ain corrupt parliament/judiciary/COPFS can give us – as well as the shite that English governments foist upon us – such as the WASPI Women and the Pension Age Rise – not to mention a plethora of other acts such as stealing our assets.
If Scots are not prepared to rise up – and take back what is rightly theirs, and their children’s, and grandchildren’s then thing swill only get worse – its a simple as that.
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