Republicofscotland @ 2:30 pm
“Removing the House Jocks is the key.”
Yes that is part of the remedy RoS; however the decolonization (i.e. independence) of all plundered and dominated peoples requires the removal of the colonizer and his culture. true liberation of ‘a people’ also requires the end of colonial assimilation procedures, i.e. imposing the desire or need for the native to become like the colonizer, even assuming his identity.
Our nationalist leaders have to focus less on the effects endured, as noted in Kenny’s fine article, and instead inform the people about the fundamental cause of their ongoing wretchedness – which is colonialism:
https://salvo-cor.s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/THEORETICAL+CASE+FOR+SCOTTISH+INDEPENDENCE.pdf
Cut off Scotland’s oil at source, and suddenly Grangemouth needs rapid expansion to cope with demand, while the rest of the UK mulls over the wisdom of building 5 refineries with no oil of its own to refine.
Cut off Scotland’s electricity supply at source, and Scotland can enjoys a surplus in clean renewable energy to heat our homes cheaply, invest in Hydrogen research, selling our surplus to the highest bidder, while Westminster mulls over the wisdom of ripping Scotland off for decades and extorting billions using the National Grid racket.
Introduce Scottish immigration controls comparable to the points system which regulates immigration to Australia and Canada, where immigrants are required to meet appropriate criteria; age, employment, skills, an income and a job. Simple parity with International precedents and societal / cultural safeguards will suffice.
There’s my triple whammy back to Westminster, on the volley.
Claim of Right is Top Trump baby.
What jobs do you think renewable energy ergy creates? All the investment is in the capital to put the turbines up – there’s then a minimal amount of maintenance so it’ is an industry with minimal ongoing jobs. When we were in the EU,the manufacturing routinely went yo forgers in Eastern Europe,so even the capital works didn’t benefit Scotland.
I don’t begrudge them that – those were/are the procurement rules. Britain is just a higher wage economy generally so manufacturing is always a challenge
If you want cheap hydrogen, you need nuclear to basically be sat there electrolyse water constantly. I think this would be great, but ScotGov are not willing to deal with practicalities so insist that wind can do it all. It can’t.
To achieve the best for the country is to decide,to stand up to those on your own side who you covet because they support our common constitutional cause. But they don’t. This is their weakness, this is their fault, and they are our undoing
Went for a bike ride there – down strathy park there are anglo s3ttlers killing and eating the ducks and geese from the loch; you can spot them for they have a little mouth inside their big mouth and it comes out and snaps to bite you.
Farage, the anglo queen is claiming their culture is threatened by zodiacs full of Predators, and that we need more human hosts (Scots) for the facehuggers. Because that will bring “growth” and get angland on its feet, to recover from the abject failure of only despoiling a quarter of the globe and only killing 100million or so – this time, we do it right. 100% completion, or nothing, like playing Grand Theft Auto.
The trans anglien community are also lobbying for conversion surgery on the NHS, penises slashed up, sewn up and transplanted into little mouths. Hormones to turn the blood into acid, and glued on skullplates.
And don’t be racist now, both aliens and predators are NEW SCOTS, for we are all Jock McTamsons bairns, but what size is his living room and who ate all the food in the fridge, even my quinoa which was clearly labelled with my name on it …
A potential addition to the litany of catastrophic endeavours undertaken by the Scottish Government is the outrageous handover of Hydrogen generation to Norwegian utilities giant Equinor and the baffling positioning of Angus Robertson as the lead on this bourach.
Robin McAlpine has addressed some of the political and financial aspects of this disastrous contract in his Blog (12th Nov. 2023). Beyond the issues discussed by Robin, a number of specific points concern me.
* How Angus Robertson, Cabinet Secretary for Constitution, External Affairs and Culture came to “own” this project. The seeming “best fit” would be Gillian Martin, Minister for Energy and the Environment. Note: Gillian Martin actually has a pre-politics background in the Energy sector.
* The absence of a specific, dedicated Industry brief in the Government.
* The technical risks associated with this innovative enterprise.
In précis, it appears Equinor will own and operate hydrogen generating facilities on Scottish soil, transport the product and “sell this” to Germany. It seems highly unlikely that the Hydrogen actually reaches Germany, just as English water customers in London can “buy water” from Wales or Northumbria. Certainly, Equinor have access to gas interconnectors and could in theory send the Hydrogen on an irreversible journey Eastward.
In practice, what is likely, actually being sold to Germany is thermal generating capacity expresses in calorific value.
This is a crucial point as we proceed to consider unknown, technical consequences and the risks associated with them.
As Hydrogen generating capacity is variable (dependent on availability of surplus to requirement electricity), the Hydrogen is presumably added to existing Natural gas (CH4) pipelines as a variable “supplement”.
This is what is being proposed by UK utilities for domestic heating, with the maximum rate of “supplement” being 20%. “Supplement” is perhaps misleading as Hydrogen has less than one third of the calorific value (325 Btu / ft3) compared with Natural gas (1011 Btu / ft3). At maximum substitution, this equates to a delivered calorific value of 874 Btu / ft3.
For domestic supply, this seems reasonable. The burner nozzles on gas boilers are fixed and 20% substitution is the maximum possible before serious issues arise. Basically, your central heating and hot water will continue to function, it’ll just take longer.
The last time we undertook a similar project was in the early 1970’s when we transitioned from Town gas (c. 574 Btu / ft3) to North Sea gas. This required the replacement of burner nozzles in domestic appliances.
The issues arise with industrial consumers. Industrial processes are highly sensitive and demand precise calorific values per unit time or unit raw material. To overcome this, industrial burner systems will require in-line measurement of delivered, calorific value with subsequent adjustment of volumes of gas delivered to the burner (to achieve the desired output). Also likely required will be, additional volumetric metering and new burner units, all of which come with a substantial capital cost.
Fine-and-dandy, except some processes such as glass making are not strictly dependent on calorific value. The transfer of heat to glass in a furnace is according to all established industrial understanding a function of the luminosity of the flame. Flame luminescence is a function of the cracking of Carbon bonds. As no Carbon bonds exist with the “supplemental” Hydrogen, the addition of Hydrogen (after increasing the volume of gas delivered to the burner) is likely not positive or even neutral, it’s likely unavoidably detrimental (for reasons it would take a great deal of time to explain).
The uncertainty here is due to the experimental nature of what is being proposed at an industrial scale. While trials may have been conducted at laboratory, bench-top scale, introducing innovative fuel gas mixes on live plant will be avoided at all costs by industry due to potential, catastrophic consequences measured in many millions of Pounds per production facility.
With uncertainty comes risk and risk must be absorbed by one or more parties in terms of potential financial liability.
The solution would be to take the processes that are detrimentally affected and replace them with electrically powered alternatives. Not quite the same issue, but the coke fuelled Blast furnaces at Port Talbot and Scunthorpe are being replaced by electric furnaces with a government subsidy of £500m per site.
In part due to our drinks sector, Scotland’s inventory of glass plants includes the world’s largest container glass furnace at Alloa.
This would provide an excellent base load (24/7) for renewable electricity generation and would therefore reduce the potential to generate “Green” hydrogen in the first place.
Presumably the negotiating team at Equinor were fully aware of the technical complexities of this project. I doubt the same could be said for anyone on the Scottish Government side of the table. Politicians and senior Civil Servants are almost invariably humanities graduates. Even if qualified scientists and engineers are hired in, there’s no reason to assume the “decision makers” have the slightest understanding of what they are agreeing to (as we learned with regard to Boris Johnson and Covid).
One thing we can assume with a degree of confidence is that the details of the contract are drawn to indemnify Equinor, and the burden of risk will lie firmly at the feet of the Scottish Government.
Take a bow Angus Robertson, another planned disaster to add to the list.
Breeks @3.29pm.
This is exactly why Scotland needs its own military forces – right now we are open to any actions that the English government – in a military sense, wishes to do to, or, in Scotland – dissolving this illegal union will not come via the ballot box – England just cannot afford to let us go – its a simple as that.
The English parliament carries too much sway in Brussels – with the likes of the EU and the UN – we’ll get no real help there – even less now that the West is at war – and its also the backing G–eno-ci-de in G–az–z–a. Add in that the USA would move heaven and earth – to keep Scotland tied to this illegal union – if only for security reasons.
We need to reach out to powerful friends abroad – who if not, have our interests at heart – at least have a desire to weaken their own enemies – we could use this to our advantage to rid us of English tyranny, and the House Jocks that do their bidding in Scotland.
After David Cameron agreed to a indyref and No almost lost – they got such a fright – that they might loose their colony up North and all that goes with it – that another indyref will never ever come about.
The Irish knew – that it would need to take action to throw off its English yoke – and they did – sadly Scots are not the Irish (no ancestry jokes please) and it shows.
@ Liz
” I also agree, Net Zero, man made Climate change is a scam.
You need to listen to independent scientists on this one, Kenny, not those employed by the WEF. ”
Absolutely .
As long as people are in thrall to the Great Lie , ie that there’s such a thing as a ” Climate Crisis/Emergency/Imminent Apocalypse ” there’s ( Net ) zero possibility of rationality or balance on the subject of Energy and it’s production & distribution . Our bills will just keep getting higher and our freedoms lower .
There’s an excellent documentary on Youtube called Climate : The Movie that debunks all the junk * Science * , risible Modelling , Funding scams and ludicrous ( and lucrative – for some ) Alarmism that characterises the entire issue .
As some of the highly qualified * dissident * experts – inc one Nobel Laureate – say , there is no such thing as ” settled Science ” on this subject – or any other : the term is oxymoronic .
What’s being forced down our throats there is an utterly bogus ” consensus ” that ( like * Covid * ) is only arrived by the total exclusion , cancelling , silencing of any opinion contradicts this ” consensus ” , however credible ; and this kid-on consensus is being used to bludgeon us all into impoverished compliance .
Kenny has failed to mention the biggest injustice of all when it comes to renewable energy and Scotland. He omits to say that, for as long as he and others aspire for Scotland to be a leading exporter or renewable energy, ordinary people and communities in the Highlands (and indeed other parts of rural Scotland) are going to pay the real price, which is a trashed environment, ruined landscapes, degraded wildlife, destroyed cultural heritage, and a much-diminished quality of life generally.
In our particular area of the Highlands threatened by the monster Spittal-Beauly 400kV overhead line, we are looking at wholesale felling of woodlands important to people and wildlife (in order to create the 80m-wide wayleave corridors the line requires not just at installation but forever); the trashing of important archaeological, historical and cultural sites and landscapes; the removal of flourishing woodland regeneration and disruption to species such as woodcock, cuckoos, ravens, skylarks etc; threats to the future of local tourism businesses; and noise and upheaval on a massive scale. And after the line is in place, there will be tsunami of applications for more wind factories, BESS etc as speculators eye up the chance of further fast bucks. And the current proposed massive overhead line is unlikely to to be the only one, as there are larger still grid upgrade targets to reach by 2050 which will require huge new infrastructure developments.
This is not to mention, an additional loss, for the people living closest to the new infrastructure – the substantial reduction of the value of what is the main (or even only) capital asset which most people have ie their home. In the Highlands, we are already seeing the values of homes near to proposed mega pylons, substations etc fall significantly and research suggests that homes close to major infrastructure might plummet in value by up to 40%. That’s 40% of a family’s assets (probably still mortgaged), lost to current and future generations of families. Paltry ‘community benefits’, or 10-year reductions to electricity bills for people living closest to pylons, will come nowhere near to replacing what these families will lose.
Nor are the people living closest to the infrastructure the only ones to suffer. Many of the areas under threat from these developments are the holiday destinations of Scottish city-dwellers and people from the rest of the UK and further afield who value the opportunity to escape to a clean, comparatively unspoilt environment where they can relax, de-stress and nurture their physical and mental wellbeing. Spittal-Beauly’s 60m high pylons, 120-acre substations emitting what is now known up here as the ‘Beauly buzz’, and massive wind factories with 200m high turbines are not conducive to wellbeing in any way.
Kenny rightly recognises at the end of his piece that our environment is being trashed. But he fails to answer the real question: do we really want to industrialise large tracts of Scotland to make a few quid (and mainly for overseas investors, it appears)?
Or could it really be that we should be looking instead at achieving sustainable, community-owned, renewable energy generation and transmission systems developed to meet local needs for energy, and not to feed the ever-increasing consumption of all kinds which is actually what lies at the foundations of our current problems nationally and internationally. We should be finding truly sustainable ways to live, and preserving and cherishing our precious landscape, wildlife, heritage and way of life, not selling it out.
Trashing the planet to save the planet? Aye right, Kenny. But it’s not too late for you to realise that there is another way. In the Highlands we sincerely hope that this message gets through not just to Kenny but to other politicians.
Because otherwise the effects on our communities, land and way of life will compare in many ways to the effects of the Highland Clearances – wholesale exploitation of the Highlands by outsiders just under a new guise.
“I agree we’re being robbed blind
We need to state our sovereignty now”
Liz.
Where do you suspect a leader, who will do, WHAT IT TAKES to ditch this illegal union will come from?
Certainly not Holyrood – that’s for sure – there’s only Ash Reagan -who backs indy, and she, and her party doesn’t have what it will take to break free of this wretched predicament – Scots have grown accustom to. The other parties are okay with the status quo – though I suspect that the London Tory branch office in Scotland would love nothing more than to see the dissolving of Holyrood.
Independence won’t come from Holyrood – it will come from the streets of Scotland – if Scots can wake the f*ck-up, and see that the country is treated as a colony and robbed blind – then action can be taken – that’s not to say that some smaller groups can’t mobilise right now.
Izzie @ 6:23 pm
“genuinely want to understand why our movement is fractured”
The rupturing of an independence movement is a common feature in the decolonization process, as explained here, and as demonstrated in the Scottish case:
Molesworth @ 5:17 pm
“If Scotland was independent, would we suddenly be able to manufacture buses cheaper than Sweden or China? I hope so, but I’m not too sure.”
Yes we would. Norway and the relatively few other fortunate oil and energy rich nations each have very low electricity prices, i.e. they are at most a quarter of ours and often much less than that, with several close to zero. Scotland has the highest electricity costs in Europe which makes us uncompetitive to manufacture anything. We also have the lowest GDP in NW Europe, whereas as an independent nation we would have one of the highest GDP.
The ‘union’ (i.e. colonialism) is therefore costing Scots at least £150 billion per annum on any reasonable resource-based GDP comparison with near neighbour states, and that is excluding the opportunity cost of what we could be doing with control over our own land and resources:
Maybe Rev Stu should consider re-publishing some of this important research?
This feels just like the late 70s and 80s all over again. Scotland literally dripping with oil, left penniless whilst the asset is strolen by England and money raised invested down there. Ever wonder how they afforded the M25 round London – Scottish oil revenue. Or what about the Channel Tunnel, only ever beneficial to the South East of England – Scottish oil revenue.
In the late 70s and 80s, barrels and barrels of oil, every minute were being extracted in Scotland, yet NONE of the revenue raised stayed in Scotland, it all went to London, to be spent as English MPs decided.
Now, here we are in 2024, blessed with vast renewable potential, yet the very people tasked with protecting us – the SNP Scottish government – are doing England’s dirty work. AND, to make matter worse, England is yet again stealing ALL our natural resources, whilst simultaneously ensuring the demise of Scottish industry and manufacturing. They stole our oil, now they steal our electricity, soon they will start stealing our water.
And Lothian buses buying from China instead of our very own Scottish bus manufacturing plant just literally twenty minutes up the road from Edinburgh. WTF?
It is a total f***ing disgrace! And the SNP do nothing, or even worse, actively collude.
23 September, 2024 at 12:32 am
The whole climate chaos narrative is just another con, designed to separate people from their cash. Only when politicians start telling the truth about this will anything change. So called ‘green’ energy will result in the de-industrialisation of Scotland, and we will be left with a tartan biscuit-tin culture, where we only produce whisky and shortbread.
In a decade or two, perhaps sooner, cool kids will be wearing t-shirts with iconic ‘Che’-style images of Ibrahim Traore, the current military leader of Burkina Faso.
The guy’s only 36, FFS, but he’s just one of the African leaders now telling those colonial throbbers to pack their bags and GTF. And they are.
How much longer can he get away with such Bolshie nonsense?! Bloody savages, hoarding our resources…
23 September, 2024 at 12:52 am
Ian Brotherhood
I think they’ll have those t-shirts far sooner.
Ibrahim Traore not only gave his country energy security but is educating the next generation to prolong capability & R through ROSATOM is providing the skill, technology & investment.
You can see why ‘the education of the next generation’ part is vital. The fecking dumbos this country churns out to pretend at playing politicians.
They signed deals of memorandum at St Petersburg international economic forum. That same forum the West boycotts & everyone is forbidden to go incase they learn something.
The West is in meltdown because with R on its side it can tell Western sanctions to get itself tae…
This is what Scotland should be doing. Going external & mingling. Not continually bleating to our captors how unfair they’re being while we’re being continually shafted. The continued shock by politicians that we’ve been shafted, yet again, should’ve gone when oil first came ashore over fifty yrs ago ffs.
Scotland doesn’t need UK approval to talk to other countries & it’s high time they got off their arse & ventured further afield than little England looking for scraps & ending up with shit. They don’t own us ffs or our travels.
Scotland is a very wealthy country IN A VOLUNTARY UNION. Not a prison. Time politicians started acting like it.. we already gave them mandates to work with. They squandered them.
Geri
Ignored
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23 September, 2024 at 1:12 am
Climate chaos was created by the West & it’s used as a punishment on poorer countries who didn’t create it.
If climate change is a conspiracy, then it’s a monumental conspiracy on a global scale.
I’m not convinced it’s fully fact or fully fiction, but if the phenomenon drives home a more enlightened respect for the vulnerability of our planet, and more particularly the miraculous diversity of life crawling, galloping, swimming, flying, burrowing, all over it, then it gets my vote.
If we found the lowest form of single cell organism living on another planet, as one day we surely will, the ramifications will alter our perceptions of the Universe. Yet here on Earth we are surrounded by a natural cathedral of complexities and interdependencies between plants, animals, environments and conditions, where every critter, even that tiny wee moth at the window, has a history and evolution as long as our own.
Nevermind destroying and turning it to dust. What right do we have to danage this paradise and even leave our mark upon it? How dare we empty its seas of whales, blast its birds out the sky, or make a desert from their habitat. What right? The right of intellect? That’s some “intellect” that it allows us to act with such stupidity. I rather think we’ve evolved a particularly profound and arrogant dumbness at the same time – a “Sturgeon” type dumbness some would say…
I’m not your convemtional tree hugger. I believe humanity has a potential to fulfil and needs science to fulfill it. But we desperately need draconian Nature Reserves, but not to keep our dwindling stocks of wild animals in, but to contain the imbalance of our umchecked human proliferation – before its too late.
Nature Reserves should not be disparate oases of benign compassion. That philosophy should be the planetary norm underpinning our entire existence.
We should step through the looking glass, see the World differently, and adopt an alternative Nature Reserve philosophy which contains and limits the grime and insatiable consumption of humanity; a reverse Biodome philosophy where we seal in the crap, not give it free reign. Fence in the dangerous ones.
If we don’t, then we won’t need the planet to destroy us. Karma will do it.
We have batteries, that’s what the pumped storage hydro stations act as. When there’s a surfeit of wind and the spot price is low they can use the power to pump water back up to their reservoir.
If Liberation get registered with the UN they will have standing to bring a case in the ICJ against WM since the Acts of Union do not empower a territorial union. The land belongs to the Crown in Scotland and that is the sovereign people. Queen Anne, the last monarch to swear the Scots coronation oath, could not take the territory of Scotland into the union as she did not own it. Being Queen of Scots not Scotland is more than just a style. Here the monarch is first amongst equals. The people own Scotland.
This rape of our land and resources is illegal. Reparations are due going back to 1707.
No thanks to Scotgov who will look like a rabbit caught in the headlights. This is sovereign Scots doing it for themselves.
Muscleguy @ 7:40 am
“This rape of our land and resources is illegal. Reparations are due going back to 1707.”
Yes, the international crime of colonialism is primarily about ‘economic plunder’ (Memmi) involving the theft of a peoples lands and resources, much as we continue to see in Scotland. As one of the earliest and wealthiest plundered colonies, reparations due to Scotland may be expected to be vast, especially given current levels of plunder exceeding £150 billion per annum. Quantifying the displacement of 3-4 million Scots is another matter.
Swinney’s mistakes
Failing to unite with Alba.
Edinburgh rape crisis centre silence.
Swinney defending Mackay and his ipad.
Failing to appoint someone with professionalism and character like Crag Murray international secretary and going with the current air miles Robertson
Failing to take advantage of the skills of Joanna Cherry
Mathieson still sacked.
Mackay not sacked
Lindon johnstone??
Pulling out of carbon target with no real explanation.
Failing to unite campaign around independence.
Focusing on protecting Scotland’s interests in westminster instead of planning to leave it.
Suggesting Nicola has something to contribute.
Offering to speak up for Scotland in Westminster instead of planning to leave it.
John Swinney- if we win the majority of votes we negotiate independence, I mean if we win the majority if seats, I mean if we win the majority we will ask for another referendum, I mean we will do fuck all. Oh we are back to a majority of seats negotiate indy.
Starmer has already said no!!
SNP silent on Grangemouth closure, silent on power lines headed south.
Conservatives and labour do a deal in Aberdeen and labour pull their candidate allowing Ross a clear run. Silence from SNP.
Yellow glasses on old man weird not cool. If he hasd shell suit on he looked like Saville.
Sturgeon and Lloyd on TV saying Swinney should have pushed independence to the front of the campaign.
Post election, the aim was to get the tories out, that was our campaign, and people made the choice ie labour.
Kirsty Blackman for chief whip. She can teach them a dance or two!! Swinney clearly has a sense of humour.
Months after a disastrous election no enquiry and signs the party is manipulation the conference agenda
Angus Robertson having a meeting of support with Israel when Gaza is ongoing and it appears leaked. Swinney again supporting the unsupportable.
Power lines are being built to take green electricity south while Scots have to pay a surcharge to connect and pay international rates for elect. All at a time when a labour government removed the heating allowance. At the same time the labour government plans a new bridge over the thames.
Silence from the SNP.
Rejecting ash regan’ proposal for the next electoral event in favour of a wishy washy proposal from the greens.
Alexander Dennis paying off 200, elect busses jow coming from china, silence fro the SNP.
Still silence on elect transfer, and Grangemouth.
SNP talking about a coalition with labour after 2026. The conservatives are more likely to support labour than labour working with the SNP. Why would labour consider being tainted by the SNP. SNP appear dilusional
SNP veto Holyrood magazine reporting in scottish currency conference.
Breeks
Agreed. We should take care of our planet.
But the climate information needs sorted fact from fiction.
The Americans have weaponised it to use as a beating stick – especially targeting poorer countries who have to accept all kinds of crazy policies in order to receive loans & investment or used against larger ones like China & India, who were robbed blind during the industrial revolution, are to put their tools away & get with one with the bees instead.
Even we don’t escape this madness via the Greens. A newly independent Scotland should just turn off the oil wells immediately & turn off the wind farms, they hurt birds. Aye, so do planes but that doesn’t stop their jollies.
The Chinese are actually meeting targets & invented a cheap electric car that can travel from New York to Florida keys on a single charge. The Yanks put a 100% tarrif on them because they can’t compete. They’ve wasted all their time & energy playing world police that they’re left behind & now consumers are to be punished & prove they’re not really that interested in the environment they force others to.
@ Breeks
” If climate change is a conspiracy, then it’s a monumental conspiracy on a global scale.”
For the record , B ….neither I , nor anyone credible , believe climate CHANGE is a conspiracy , the climate is a dynamic , constantly changing , unpredictable phenomenon . What’s being * manufactured * is climate CRISIS
Neither is anyone credible disputing that measures will have to be taken to mitigate the effects of climate change in particular locations .
Likewise we should not be poisoning our oceans , seas , rivers , land & air with the detritus of our manic , wasteful consumption
This should be obvious .
But the idea that the source of so much – unnecessary – pollution ie Neoliberal Capitalism , is going save us from the horrific environmental damage that system itself is creating is absolutely absurd .
Neither do we need diktats from the wired-for-war automatons in the E.U , WEF , U.N or any of the other New World Masters insisting WE have to make enormous sacrifices in terms of our freedom of movement , standard of living etc in order to ” save the Planet ” whilst THEY continue to reinforce the very policies/conditions that are wreaking untold damage on our Planet and enjoy extravagant salaries and bonuses and fawning adulation even as they make life more difficult – currently , existentially precarious – for the populaces under their demented rubric .
The issues created by changing climate must be addressed in non-hysterical, ergo rational manner ; with open , undogmatic debate allowed and plausible solutions sought .
Not , as is the case currently – by a tiny political elite shouting commands from atop their ivory towers , inoculated by their own lavish sinecures from the reality of what they’re proposing/inflicting on everyone else .
Nor by * Green * millionaires flying all over the globe to meet with their peers to tell the rest of us we have to travel less , or , as they would want , not at all .
Yes , stay in your little 15min ghettos , plebs , only your masters are permitted the freedom to go/do whatever-the-fuck they like .
NAW ! fuck-off wae yr threats to punish us for putting the * wrong * items in our ” recycling ” ( ie exporting to poorer countries ) bins whilst you spend incalculable amounts of our money on evermore lethal weaponry to create barren , desolate blood-soaked landscapes , of use only to scavengers & carrion-feeders – animal and human .
23 September, 2024 at 12:28 pm
‘With the PRC’s internal political repression and minority human rights record, its industrial pollution problems and the quasi colonial nature of Xi’s «belt & road» initiative, notably in Africa, he might care to rethink that.’
Aye, right after the West. There is currently a geno-cide happening, funded, approved & sanctioned by the west. I don’t think the Chinese will take any lectures from them do you?
& The Chinese have gone from one of the poorest countries on the planet (due to colonialism) to one of the richest free from colonial rule. They don’t need lectures they should stop no either.
From what I’ve seen, the belt & road initiative has only poured much needed investment into countries long abandoned to rack & ruin, and with no strings attached. No GRR & climate emergency bullshit policies. No imposed American foreign policy. No treble repayments unlike the world bank/IMF imposes. So I doubt they need lectures there either.
The Americans are shitting themselves over Africa. They’re offering them two seats on the UN security council but only if they remain mute & it will be with no veto powers. They can just watch the grown ups LMAO. How insulting & so is the bullshit about human rights records.
They’re in no position to lecture anyone. How quick you are to forget one million dead Iraqis, violation of international laws to be all over the globe fighting or interfering & the use of illegal weapons during all of their conflicts against unarmed countries & civilians including their latest act of terrorism using personal devices. Whatever next? Planes, trains, people’s TVs?
They’re out of control.
They’re getting short shift at the UN these days. I doubt it will remain in its current form for much longer. That’s the danger of eejits thinking they’ll start lecturing others when they haven’t stopped warring & killing millions either through illegal occupation of boots on the ground or by economic sanctions since WW2.
This is nonsense.
There is nothing whatsoever cheap about renewables and wind energy.
Otherwise it would not need subsidies, carbon credits, favourable supply and access terms, etc.
Rather than prices falling, the latest auctions needed a near doubling of the supplier price to get any takers.
The rest of the economy relies on cheap and reliable energy. That only comes from oil and gas. Coal if politicians hadn’t gloated over blowing up perfectly serviceable power stations, and nuclear if a campaign of irrational fear hadn’t tied up the UK industry in such environmental red tape that reactors cost four times the cost to build as they do in Korea.
We have already seen that the cost of purchasing emergency supplies on calm cold winter days reaches 100 times the cost we can sell our green power when there are large surpluses. So it only needs three or four dark still days and you have wiped out any gains for the rest of the year.
We pay more than double the price of power as North America does, and five times the price in China, the gap has grown the greener we have become.
It is a murderous, destructive insanity.
Maybe those inclined to take to the streets to help the Indy cause could start going to unionist rallies… it’d prolly do more “good”.
The root problem is that Sturgeon destroyed everything, including the hope that inspired hundreds of thousands to go on marches not so long ago.
The only hope I have left is that people aren’t as predictable as we assume and at some point they will look at what’s going on and wake up. (They don’t need a leader or a political party to facilitate that btw [the Berlin Wall came down without any sort of leadership orchestration]).
It’s now officially progressive to hope that everything goes so pear-shaped that change becomes inevitable.
There is a conference in Stirling on Saturday 5 October to plan for the future of the independence movement. Contact Jason on indyapp.nyr@gmail.com for details.
No need for rallies at the moment. I prefer the simple old-fashioned approach. Saltire sticker on the car licence plate, blue and white “Independence” sticker on the back window of the car and front window of the house. No need for parades and pipes just silent ever-present reminders.
Get a couple of Saltire t-shirts printed – wear them when doing the shopping or the gardening. No need for conversation. You’re opinion will be advertised enough.
Happy clappy flag waving exercises will get us nowhere – the House Jocks politicians, at Holyrood which are blocking any movement on indy – can and have, just ignored them – or better still they’ve sent one or two, pretendy indy MSPs, to the marches to give-off the impression that they care about indy – when all they care about is getting your vote.
No – better to have two – or three – van loads of indy committed folk – who are mobile and can be outside a venue where these pretendy indy politicians are, to protest on how they have done nothing for the cause. This kind of exercise MUST be kept up for a period of time – so that when these politicians exit a backslapping venue – the first thing they see, and hear, is folk airing their treachery – it goes without saying that Bute House and Holyrood should be protested outside – every single day.
Sadly – Scots don’t have it in them to even do this task – we’re so apathetic – that we let an 80 year old Brian Quail – a retired teacher, lie down in front of nukes being transported from England to Scotland via our biggest cities – whilst the rest of us did nothing to aid him – or stop this dangerous convoy from England.
Media. Media. Media!
nation.cymru is a good model. A mix of current affairs from the British isles, with specifically Welsh politics, sport, music and broader culture. Political coverage has a mildly Welsh independence slant without shouting at the reader. Brings in a wider readership rather than catering purely to political anoraks.
Bandwidth on independent Scots media is actually diminishing (particularly with the sad loss of Iain Lawson and his Yours for Scotland, platform).
I believe an attempt to pool the efforts of some of prominent voices was made a significant number of years back and failed. Strong personalities, diametrically opposed political opinion on “cultural issues”, and frankly dubious motivation from a remuneration perspective don’t make this an easy task.
I’d willingly contribute articles on technical topics.
This could be a forum for discussion and positive policy development rather than just a negative, bitch-fest that comments sections so easily descend into.
GMK once berated me for saying that there would be no Indyref in 2023 as promised by Sturgeon. He said that “he was in the know” and that some “very high up and important people” had told him that it was “in the bag”.
He said that people like me have no clue about what is really going on and that I and others should listen to the grown-ups like him.
There is a way forward without politicians.
A few people using this blog often cast bricks and untruths about what Salvo/Liberation organisation is and what its purpose is. Blinkered and closed minded describes those views perfectly. Opinions without information. For instance Alba rejected the Salvo approach over two years ago for political reasons. My personal assumption was that this was because Salvo is outwith the Westminster bubble of rules. It uses and promotes Scots laws for Scotland. The sovereignty of the people.
The purpose of Salvo/Liberation is to create a liberation movement with members signing a declaration. Salvo is the active branch of the liberation movement.
The purpose of Salvo is to take the UK to the UN and international court to prove that Scotland is a colony and is so against UN guidance already acknowledged by Westminster. It has also carried out detailed research into the creation of the Union. This shows that legally there is no Union and that the UK is a fraudulent State. They are also working to educate Scots about our rights in law and in this’s so called Union. They have campaigns running for instance against Freeports. They will use law to get our freedom.
They are not a political party. They are a liberation movement working for independence. They have lots of members. Recently they have had open democratic elections for a committee to run the organisation and push specific avenues of action to promote the key objectives. They recognise that all political parties in Scotland with the exception of the ISP operate in a colonial administration using a foreign country’s laws and administrative procedures. They swear allegiance to a foreign crown and monarch. They cannot get us independence as the coloniser, England will not allow it.
It understands our rights. Scots rights not those illegally pushed on us from a foreign land.
To understand more read Doun Hauden by Alfred Baird and read the Salvo website in detail. The UK is worried about Salvo Liberation.
Andy Anderson: “Alba rejected the Salvo approach over two years ago for political reasons. My personal assumption was that this was because Salvo is outwith the Westminster bubble of rules. It uses and promotes Scots laws for Scotland. The sovereignty of the people.”
That’s why the establishment is worried about Salvo’s approach: it’s difficult to control when no malleable politicians are involved and there is no vote which can be fixed.
Of course, I’m sure the UK would seek to twist the arms of the UN or any international court asked to deliberate on Salvo’s case but that’s another matter.
George Ferguson
23 September, 2024 at 5:38pm
Agree with your analysis Stu. The Independence movement is like a sprinkling of iron filings scattered everywhere in need of a magnet to align them. Every cause under the sun but the real cause. 3 weeks ago I left Alba not because I don’t respect leaders like Alex or Kenny or the members, they have nothing to prove to me. But because political party machinery restricts innovative approaches and policy development. The magnet is strategic policies that answer the questions outstanding for ten years. Should have been the job of the SNP Government but we are where we are. (emphasis added)
That’s the approach that has been failing for the last ten years and more. The effort to find universally satisfactory answers to every question has been ongoing since the early days of the 2014 referendum campaign. It was Better Together’s most successful ploy. They knew they could not win the constitutional argument. So, they made the campaign about everything except the constitution.
While the largest part of the independence movement was preoccupied with making an entirely redundant ‘economic case’ for independence, barely a handful of people were left discussing the thing that the referendum was actually about.
Two things you need to know about this “answer the questions” strategy. There are no universally satisfactory answers. Any answer to any policy question is likely to be rejected by as many people as find it satisfactory. So, you’re no further forward.
And there are always more questions. Once you accept your opponents’ right to demand answers to every question, your opponent can quite effortlessly keep you occupied with a constant stream of questions while declaring that you haven’t satisfactorily answered any of the previous questions. Which is true, because no answer satisfies everyone.
The thing about questions is that they generate doubt. Or they aggravate doubts that already exist. The anti-independence campaign wasn’t ‘Project Fear’. It was ‘Project Doubt’. The fact that questions are being asked and that those they are asked of validate them by attempting to answer, make an issue questionable. It creates doubt. As does the fact that there is never a single answer. The Yes movement generated dozens of different answers to the same questions. Doubt’s twin sister, Confusion, arrives to help her undermine the Yes campaign’s credibility.
The Yes campaign seeks to restore its credibility by finding better answers to every one of the endless stream of questions, apparently oblivious to the fact that it was attempting to answer the questions which caused the loss of credibility in the first place. The public looks on and seeing only doubt and confusion, edges towards the comforting familiarity of the status quo.
It’s not better answers we need. It’s better questions. Independence is normal. It’s the Union which is anomalous. It is the Union that must be justified. The Yes campaign was fucked from the outset by the question on the ballot. That question made independence the contentious issue. An effective single-issue campaign cannot be built around a contested concept. Such success as the Yes campaign did enjoy cannot be attributed to those seeking perfect answers to contrived questions while undermining their own campaign by generating/aggravating doubt. Credit for that success goes entirely to the flag-waving masses who countered the doubt and confusion with highly visible displays of commitment and conviction.
If the ‘experts’ in the independence movement had just shut-the-fuck up about currency for ten minutes, those displays of certainty might have carried the day. There is no certainty in economics. There is only doubt. A constitutional question cannot be answered with a calculator.
#NewScotlandParty #EndTheUnion #NoSection30 #ScottishUDI #ManifestoForIndependence
24 September, 2024 at 11:23 am
“make sure that the next time voters think seriously about independence”.
Both sides. Focusing on independence misses the biggest reason for it in the first place – how badly the UK has been run for many decades. In the 90’s I read a book with the title of The Pride and the Fall:The Dream and Illusion of Britain as a Great Nation. It’s a title that doesn’t pull any punches and shows the attitude that will be needed if both of the reasons for independence are to be taken seriously.
Therefore both sides of independence need to be made. The positives for independence and the negatives of remaining in the UK. As has been said many times, there is little or no sign of a positive and realistic case for Scotland remaining in the UK. If there was, it would have already have been made. Instead empty phrases such as ‘strong shoulders’ are used, or insulting drivel such as this that the ‘UK’ isn’t too proud to engage in –
The argument against remaining in the UK is about how the UK is managed. So let the ‘UK’ make their case with their’falsehoods’ while Scotland does it by highlighting proven and positive realities. Spin is getting weaker as it becomes more self evidently bs or downright manipulative lying. It has a very long track record, as does the malicious actions of UK government’s –
The case for remaining in the UK is extremely weak and is becoming ever more so by the day. That needs to be made an equal part of the argument for independence. Conversely the case for independence is extremely strong. That combination makes for an incredibly strong case for independence. It’s time to get serious about both reasons for independence. The biggest risk to Scotland isn’t an uncertainty of independence, it’s the certainty of decline that will continue as long as Scotland remains managed by the UK. The former risk is minimal while the latter is guaranteed by a long track record of decline. Not a hard choice to make when both are looked at seriously.
It’s as if a bunch of religious cult extremists have captured the institutions of the West – academia, law, politics, etc. – and they are hell-bent on forcing their insane, reality-denying ideology onto society. What makes them dangerous is that they are 100% certain they are right and that society is wrong. They need to undergo cult deprogramming. Queer theory is the equivalent of Scientology.
In over a months time, it will be the first budget under the new Labour government. To plug a ’22 billion pound black hole’, there is the prospect of austerity 3.0 and eye watering tax rises for all including abolition of the single persons Council tax discount.
If this does come to fruition every everybody will feel the pain, regardless of their status, will this woke epidemic that has captured every strand of our society be tolerated?
It’s gone and as Davie @ 7:07 said, race will be the next big thing will be relation both with the illegal immigrant amnesty in the near future and the importation of cheap labour from every part of the world caused by Brexit.
I’ve got to disagree with one little bit…
“[Cowan] is, in short, the kind of batshit-mental colon-gazing narcissist sociopath who thrives in academia because they couldn’t hold down a normal job for 30 seconds and sticking them in a university by and large isolates the problem and minimises the amount of damage they cause to society…”
No, no, no – far from it. Letting these kind of cretinous weirdoes set the academic agenda poisons the mind of every student who comes near their malign influence. And not just those signed up directly to their wee pretendy courses – their toxic worldview ripples out via committees, institutional policies and the whole academic culture to produce in short order exactly the kind of crushing hand of intolerant orthodoxy that lies behind the behind all the institutional capture other commenters have already mentioned. Far better that the likes of Cowan should try and charge people £700 for a tin of beans: they would be exposed all the quicker that way.
23 September, 2024 at 10:04 pm
Wait.. ppl actually go to university to learn this irrelevant shit?
We really should introduce tuition fees.
As for Brindley – she’s obviously on the payroll of London. Yet another plant sent to irritate the fck out of Scotland. The fact she hasn’t been removed yet only confirms it.
Its a disgrace & grossly unfair. She is stopping women & girls receiving the help & support they desperately need at their most vulnerable. How fcking dare she invite trans activist into private meetings. WTF is wrong with these insensitive sick bastards? And government is funding this?
I agree with what others have said about the professor – it’s not harmless. These space cadets only create more space cadets & before we know it they’re in the highest echelons of Holyrood to float queer laws or some other fcking wackadoo law onto the public who don’t even support this shit in the first place.
From “The Hand of Friendship” more campaigning is simply more fiddling while Rome burns. It will do little to change anyone’s mood, except the clapping seals, like those that hang out at that other blog. Anyone wanting to push independence is going to have to prove themselves by ousting the likes of Brindley and Cowan, and generally shoveling as much shit out of the stables as possible. Then you’ll instill some hope that being a separate country is actually worth it. Either that, or you can wait until “times change” and everyone realises that giving power to anyone that wants it is generally a bad idea.
24 September, 2024 at 10:08 am
Its all part of the plan – to keep Scotland f*cked-up and so badly ran – so that folk will say, how could Scotland possibly dissolve the union and run its own affairs – when it doesn’t even know what a woman is.
Keep Scottish society fractured via inane policies and draconian laws – and folk will be too busy just trying to make ends meet – and arguing for or against this or that – they’ll forget that the real prize is uniting, and dissolving this illegal union.
Dave G @ 12.37pm
“Also don’t forget it was only intervention by “London” that stopped the insane Scottish GRR Bill becoming actual law.”
Wasn’t that more to do with the way it would’ve cut across UK legislation? And I’m sure some MSPs (I think including SNP MSPs) said they hoped once a UK Labour govt got in, they’d be much more amenable to finding a way to introduce it across the UK, which might yet happen.
I also don’t think the Tories wanted to be seen as the ones who facilitated it, even though there’s an element within the Tories who actively support it (although it’s not clear how big an element it is). It’ll be interesting to see what the Tories do if Labour do try to bring in something similar to the GRR.
Dave G
“How the feck do you work that out?”
Easy. NGOs & Lobby groups are stuffed full of plant. So are Westminster appointed civil servants.
Just because they are employed by the Scottish government means absolutely nothing. Holyrood isn’t a Scottish parliament. Its Westminsters *administration*
“Also don’t forget it was only intervention by “London” that stopped the insane Scottish GRR Bill becoming actual law. If “London” is playing any part in this (which I seriously doubt) it is to the benefit of Scots who hold gender critical views, i.e. the sane majority.”
No. They actually introduced it here in the first place (Leslie Evans) & allowed it to fester for years for their benefit so they could act like the knight in shining armor to save us stupid Scots from ourselves at the very last minute. They (Unionist parties) also voted for this shit in Holyrood despite having NO mandate from the public to do so. UK government could’ve stepped in at any time over the 5+ yrs but they didn’t. They let it run rampant instead, at a cost of £hundreds of £thousands before pulling the plug on it.
Charities are also government funded & Brindley had far too much influence in government where she shouldn’t have been. Meddling in everything. From Salmond case to this self-ID nonsense & I’m sure this Charity also played a role in the original consolations.
Then we come to the Teflon. Numerous ppl, past & present, should be sacked immediately – they’re not. They’re shuffled around or go onto another better paid roles within government. Someone , somewhere must be pulling the strings that protect these eejits despite public backlash for them to go.
Sturgeon is another tosser hanging around like a bad smell despite the shit she’s allegedly in.
It reflects poorly on any Scottish university that they allocate resources and status to create a meaningless chair in ‘Queer Legal Studies’ yet have no chair in many of the most important matters affecting Scotland and its people, matters such as Scottish independence, Scottish constitutional matters, Scottish trade, land reform, housing etc.
Brilliant piece, Rev – again. If not for people like you, we would be ingesting undiluted toxic propaganda from the MSM all day, every day. I have reached a point where I cannot believe anything that appears in the MSM is real or even studied. If it is not spewed and lower pipehole-ejected through the filter of intersectional nonsense, it is simply not mentioned at all. If it is not one-sided it has no merit in our force-fed orthodoxy: one side good, two sides bad.
When are the universities going to scrap those useless courses about inter sectionalism and all the rest of the pee that passes for enlightenment? They’d save themselves from bankruptcy. Same goes for anything that cannot show that it is doing good rather than bad, that people, in general, are better for it. Exit all the millions spent on this ordure that passes for progressive policy. I want to cut off my breasts cos I’m non binary! No, you silly wee besom, you have real problems enough without adding to them. Wah, wah, wah, wah…my right to do what I like all the time cos I’m the centre of the universe. Enter large booted foot that connects with nethers.
What has happened is that narcissistic sociopaths and psychopaths, sadists, AGPs and fetishists of all kinds, and other mentally-disturbed people have been placed in charge of most of our public institutions. Ms C/B are just two of the breed who are in the ascendancy at the moment – until the next social contagion comes along. Queer Theory has only one end point, and it involves women, children, gays and lesbians, and animals. So sick of hearing that they are ‘captured’ and ‘indoctrinated’. Nah. The wee lassies, young lads and children might well be, but not the enablers. Lord, forgive them not because they know exactly what they do.
Post structuralism/postmodernism, Queer theory’s twin, has only one end point, too, and that involves the wholesale destruction of all that has gone before – laws, social mores, prohibitions, social structure, political structure, etc. In other words, you destroy in order to rebuild, but the problem is that the adult children who follow this political movement, like nursery toddlers, have the greatest difficulty in putting it all back together again when they have demolished the lego city. Because they cannot actually rebuild in any meaningful way, a massive black hole of chaos is the result, where anything goes, and only strongest survive. A kind of Nietschean-cum-Marxist-cum-Dantesque-cum-Kafkaesque-cum-Foucaultesque hell awaits the rest. But, hey, you can’t have perfection.
25 September, 2024 at 12:40 am
Erdogan getting tore in about this gender nonsense at an address to the UN.
Did he just call them Nazis? Lol It sounded like it. I’m sure that’s what the translator said.
Let’s rip about the opening of the Olympic games watched by children & their families. Calling it disturbing scenes of evil, insulting to Christians & sexist propaganda.
Calls it an attack on the family, on humanity & human nature.
“The issue of desexualisation is no longer an orientation but a global imposition” also mentions the attack & fear ppl face on speaking out. Well Turkey won’t be tolerating it & calls on other countries to join the UN Friends of the family group.
Also let’s rip at the UN for the thugs allowed there who rip up charters, are allowed to break international law & commit geno-cide with impunity.
WTG Erdogan. His full address can be seen on the ‘We love Africa’ channel on YouTube. (Translation included)
Yet more of closeted Sturgeon’s mentally unbalanced gay mafia madness. They really did take over Scottish politics during the unbalanced former FM’s reign of idiot ideologue terror, didn’t they? They all needed rooted out. Brindley and Cowan seem like vicious, deranged, perverted ideologues, completely detached from reality. They seemingly hate heterosexual sex, and hetero women, and want to punish them. They come across as deeply troubled individuals, and are a disgrace to Scotland. Hardly a surprise that Edinburgh University spews this faux-yank shite (the minute I hear words like ‘cisgender’ or ‘heteronormative’ I know I am dealing with a fucking idiot with nothing useful or sane or sensible to say) in the form of Cowan, mind you. This whole sick, twisted, disturbing, victim-assaulting thing is a wound that needs amputated and cauterised, metaphorically speaking. It can’t go on a minute longer, and any sane, reasonable person can see that.
It is despicable that this lady and others have to undergo this constant barrage of self righteous narcissism by this reviled creature whose ONLY interest which is blatantly obvious is to retain her salary, benefits and position, ANY sign of integrity or honesty is completely missing which should come as no surprise to anyone who viewed her desperate public support of the alphabetties in their quest to undermine the innocence verdict against Alex Salmond
As I commented yesterday WHERE are the females in Holyrood of ALL parties ignoring this ongoing assault against women who have SUFFERED severe trauma and violence at the hands of male rapists who then have to unburden and relive their innermost fears and disgust to a FAKE WOMAN fully supported by this biology denier
Heartbreaking letter, Paula. I have come to the conclusion that many men simply do not care a jot about female people. Many do, so we should not tar them all with the same brush. What I find almost incomprehensible is that so many of my own sex and yours should take the part of these men with glee. These women, like Brindley, like Cowan, like Sturgeon, are not doing this because they believe that men can be magically turned into women at their own say-so, but because they are being played, and, frankly, are too brainwashed and too desperate for approval that they would sell out their fellow women and girls for at the behest of AGPs and fetishists.
If the truth be told, these men consume vast quantities of porn. Every study ever done shows this to be the case. A male police officer who had made a study of sex crimes, such as rape and sexual assault of women, girls and boys, stated a few years ago, that every home from which these men came, was saturated in porn. He made the link between porn and deviant sexual crimes. If that is the case in the latter example, then both sets of men use porn in ways that trigger their deviancy. The only thing that they have in common is that they are men.
Until we are willing to say out loud what we know to be the truth, female people will continue to suffer, and stupid, enabling women will go along with it rather than tell the truth. Wadhwa is still at ERCC, apparently, although no longer CEO. If that is not so, then Brindley needs to come out and say it is not the case. This man in a frock was not qualified for the job, but the got it in front of women who were both qualified and the right sex. Let’s just accept for a moment what the studies to date on these men have shown. This man was getting his rocks off through the position he was in at a rape crisis centre for females. This is what so many simply do not get: these men need not rape physically because they do it in so many other ways when they invade female spaces.
You are a brave woman, Paula and I hope you heal and that your daughter’s life is not blighted as so many women’s are. Someday, perhaps, rape and sexual assault and all kinds of woman hating and conflict will be no more and we can all live our lives in freedom. The runes do not look too good, but we can never give up and give in to the Wadhwas, the Brindleys, the Cowans, the Sturgeons, the Cole-Hamiltons and the many others who have betrayed us all, but especially women like you who so badly needed their help.
So sorry you’ve had to go through this, Paula.
I second what Mia & others have written – well said.
She should be sacked immediately. Not step down. She should have no future role in dealing with vulnerable people.
This cult truly is sickening & should be completely rooted out of RCS & all women’s spaces. Vulnerable, frightened victims don’t need indoctrinating & they certainly shouldn’t be forced to feel bad/ stay away altogether by a bunch of cult activists intent on forcing their will onto others. Its coercive control – the very thing victims of abuse are trying to escape from.
Its a tale as old as time that certain ppl are attracted to certain jobs involving vulnerable people because they get a kick out of it but all evidence, red flags, common sense & safeguards are allowed to go out of the window when it comes to this parasitic cult.
Thank you for speaking out x
Maybe we should ask literary titan & supreme arbiter of what can be considered ” valid ” – N Sturgeon – to review this letter , maybe at the behest of the Prog Pravda , ie The Guardian .
She’s probably too busy praising war criminals to be interested in the welfare of , well , y’know , common , unfamous people
Every single one of the maladjusted spineless nodding-dogs in Holyweird , the ones who were so enthusiastic in their support for the GRR mental sickness , should be compelled to read this letter : maybe then they’d realise the real-life pain & suffering they are facilitating in their supine approval of arrogant Gender Cultists like Brindley, Cowans et al
25 September, 2024 at 12:18 pm
These people have absolutely no conscience, all of those women were told to stfu and get with the program of gtfo. Cowan being brought in is an example of the nepotism, cronyism and political favouritism which is rife in Scotland/the West and which I have previously mentioned in my own experience of organisations practicing institutional wokeism. As I also previously mentioned Mr Idul had the twin protection of claiming transphobia and racism against anyone who dared state the obvious.
I have been reading about the GDR recently and advise people to do the same for a glimpse of the road we are travelling.
25 September, 2024 at 12:25 pm
Ross: she and others were enablers. I don’t want her to have to go as that sort of makes it cancellation, too, but I want her to offer an unconditional statement that she and they were in the wrong, that this will not happen again, and that women’s services will not be allowed to be infiltrated by the penis-havers even if they disguise themselves in frocks.
We have three strands of this stuff: the adult men; the young women (the vast majority); and the children. They cannot possibly be the same thing, so we have to push and push for the truth. It will not be pretty and many have such a stake in this ordure that they will fight tooth and nail to prevent any debate or any modern study of this stuff. That so many are females, says much about our sex in that it seems incapable of sustained reason when feelings come into play – not their feelings, but men’s – and that really does need to be explored and explained.
The very first thing we should be asking is: why would any decent man wish to breach the boundaries of decency, of female spaces? That is the starting point and Brindley, Cowan, Sturgeon, et al, failed in their duty of care and did not do due diligence. That is a very serious failing.
Geri
Ignored
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25 September, 2024 at 6:42 pm
The EU won’t exist.
NATO won’t exist.
Let me bore you with the founding Constituion of the EEC… The emphasis is mine.
Treaty establishing the European Economic Community#
HIS MAJESTY THE KING OF THE BELGIANS, THE PRESIDENT OF THE
FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF GERMANY, THE PRESIDENT OF THE FRENCH
REPUBLIC, THE PRESIDENT OF THE ITALIAN REPUBLIC, HER ROYAL
HIGHNESS THE GRAND DUCHESS OF LUXEMBOURG, HER MAJESTY THE
QUEEN OF THE NETHERLANDS,
DETERMINED to establish the foundations of an ever closer union among the European peoples,
DECIDED to ensure the economic and social progress of their countries by common action in eliminating the barriers which divide Europe,
DIRECTING their efforts to the essential purpose of constantly improving the living and working conditions of their peoples,
RECOGNISING that the removal of existing obstacles calls for concerted action in order to guarantee a steady expansion, a balanced trade and fair competition,
ANXIOUS to strengthen the unity of their economies and to ensure their harmonious development by reducing the differences existing between the various regions and by mitigating the backwardness of the less favoured,
DESIROUS of contributing by means of a common commercial policy to the progressive abolition of restrictions on international trade,
INTENDING to confirm the solidarity which binds Europe and overseas countries, and desiring to ensure the development of their prosperity, in accordance with the principles
of the Charter of the United Nations,
RESOLVED to strengthen the safeguards of peace and liberty by establishing this combination of resources, and calling upon the other peoples of Europe who share their ideal to join in their efforts,
HAVE DECIDED to create a European Economic Community and to this end have designated as their plenipotentiaries:
Granted, the EU is the successor to the EEC, however after WW2, Europe was resolved to turning it’s back on centuries of petty wars and jealousies, and Imperial ambitions which had plagued Europe since the Middle Ages, and seek prolonged peace through closer integration of economic performance so future wars were unthinkable.
“That” kind of EU properly should survive.
However a militaristic and hawklike EU which becomes an active participant in war, supplies weapons, and seeks to control other Nations through economic sanctions and financial muscle is nothing better than the same old European style Colonial Oneupmanship which twice led to global conflagration, and threatened the very existence of life on Earth. The EU has become the very thing the EU was meant to prevent.
And NATO? Jesus where to begin… A defence pact against a Communist Soviet Empire which hasn’t existed since 1991, where “R” tentative efforts to secure its borders peacefully was met with flagrant duplicity and outright betrayal, and one broken promise after another at the behest of unhindged paranoia and suspicion from the morally bankrupt and desperate USA.
All that was ever asked of “U” was neutrality; the same neutrality which the belicose USA demands of Cuba… Yet we, in the West, are not allowed to recognise parity in this. One rule for us, and separate rules for everybody else. It’s disgusting; particularly given the West’s disposition and complicity towards the depraved obscenities and double standards in the Middle East.
NATO should have been put out to grass in 1991. It is an anachronism left over from the Cold War of the last century which is has now directly destabilised the whole of Europe and brought war upon us all. And for what? So the US could put missiles and weapons labs in range of M0sc0w.
I look forward to the day NATO is wound up, and the same day, when the UN no longer has to listen to the bullying rhetoric of spolied brat “superpowers” with ideas above their station.
We should fix the EU, cure its Nealiberal disease, and make peace in the East if it isn’t already too late. If they’re looking for the bogey-man, they’re looking in the wrong direction.
NATO can get fkd so far as I care.
@ Breeks
” All that was ever asked of “U” was neutrality; the same neutrality which the belicose USA demands of Cuba… Yet we, in the West, are not allowed to recognise parity in this. One rule for us, and separate rules for everybody else. It’s disgusting; particularly given the West’s disposition and complicity towards the depraved obscenities and double standards in the Middle East.”
Exactly .
” U ” could have been the Switzerland of E.Europe , but , no , the black hand of U.S Deep State psychopathy had other plans for that stricken country .
After Maidan & the installation of puppet-wank-* actor * Agent Z – let’s not forget elected on a platform of constructive relations with ” R ” , that policy immediately abandoned upon election – the long-planned use of U as a proxy in the demented attempt – ANOTHER ONE – to regime change R was initiated .
Look at the horrific death-toll there at the extremely perilous state we’ve arrived at as a result .
As for the E.U . until such times as WEF/Globalist psychos like Von der Leyen are removed , forget it . It’s nothing more than an accomplice in the insane warmongering which is pushing us closer to Nuclear devastation .
26 September, 2024 at 11:35 am
Dorothy
Correct. Anything & anyone against the US is a terrorist.
Despite being elected. Which is more than can be said for them at the moment.
Breeks & Robert
Well said but I fear, according to various commentators, the EU is overrun with neocons & could be a lost cause. There populations are trying to get them out but they appear unwilling to go while others have had a wake up call that it isn’t wise to antagonise yer neighbours – especially when they own what you want far cheaper. The nukes intended for Germany, without consultation, is causing outrage.
& WTF is Sir Kid Starver playing at? I watched Vasily Nebenzya yesterday at the UN give him his answer, he (UK) is currently party & funding to two conflicts – maybe he needs reminded of the UN charter & Int law. Can somebody tell him? Lol
& PMSL at his response to Z. Not just a bad actor who fooled a population into voting for him for peace but once he gained power started Nazi worshipping & employing thugs to persecute R speaking regions. There again (at the UN), with his entourage, for another pointless exercise when his term is void.
“Z is a dead weight. A suitcase without a handle” LMAO!
He then proceeded to remind everyone how exactly this started with the U guy played on his phone.
He got some belters in yesterday. Especially over G-za. They’ve no shame lecturing anyone while they remain silent on geno-cide happening right under their noses with their help & they have vetoed FIVE times to put a stop to it.
When the dust has now settled over the last ten years, I can’t help but get that very sinking feeling that being a Scot in the UK amounts to no more than being a Nova Scotian* in Canada.
* Also coincidentally known as ‘bluenoses’. There might just be something in that.
I agree 100% with this article Stu and your conclusion.
Words, more words is what this is. No mention on how to action this idea nor any mention on who would recognise and support this vague idea.
We have had years of words from the SNP and little action unless you wish to highlight a draft referendum bill that was put to the UK courts from comment. A court whose purpose is to support the Union. Why was that not an approved bill sanctioned by the Court of Session.
I have no faith at all that any political party with members in Holyrood or Westminster has the nouse, the assertiveness and ability to get us independence. They do not have a clue about our own laws and constitution. They abide by Englands laws only. Disgraceful.
A second independence referendum will never be granted by the British state. Westminster is not in fact a democracy, it’s a Spookocracy.
Keir Starmer has been described by that levelheaded, one nation Tory, Peter Oborne as the “MI5 candidate”.
Starmer’s Chief of Staff, Sue Gray comes from solidly working class, Irish diaspora stock, having grown up in London. Financial restraints prevented her going to university, and she joined the Civil Service straight from school.
How did she end up joined at the hip to Keir Starmer? Well, she resigned from the Civil Service in 2023 to take up the position as his Chief of Staff while he was leader of the opposition. By exercising this highly unusual move, she was found to have broken the Civil Service code.
One curious note from Gray’s Wiki page; “Gray took a career break in the 1980s, a step described … as “strikingly unorthodox”.During this time, she ran the Cove Bar, a pub in Newry … during The Troubles, … Peter Caldwell, a former special adviser to several ministers, said it had been speculated Gray was a spy at this time, though Gray denied it.”.
The Cove Bar was a known Irish Republican haunt.
Clearly, Gray is Starmer’s Handler, not his “Chief of Staff”. All terribly redolent of Sturgeon’s visceral attachment to Liz Lloyd.
“…recognised, legal and fair process to test,
where appropriate…”
Where appropriate are the key words there I think. And the Westminster Viceroy gets to decide.
“The international community is not especially exercised by the issue, particularly as Scotland did have a vote on the matter in fairly recent history”.
Yeah, even though that particular exercise would fail all tests of being a free and fair one; two (or was it 3) world record beating postal vote returns in one day. A foreign media 99.9% hostile to Scotland (proven fact by prof. Robertson), with the State Broadcaster even running a 5 minute ‘No’ propaganda piece nationally, every hour on the hour, all day long, no independent observers etc…
Oh and mustn’t forget a local government franchise used where everybody and his/her dog got a say; second home owners, students here temporarily, anyone from anywhere basically.
Just saying, like.
If Scots are to receive the equivalent treatment of the Belfast Agreement implied by this report that should mean the franchise is similarly open only to ‘all persons born” in Scotland. But I don’t see this ‘condition’ in the Noon & Dugdale report. Which means the Scots are not being treated equally vis-a-vis N Ireland. We are not equal also re Brexit with people born in N Ireland able to hold EU citizenship via an Irish passport. Scots treated as second class again, and as the Rev implies, held captive. Scotland’s resources are clearly worth a great deal more to Westminster, a factor also ignored by Noon & Dugdale .
Sven
We don’t need to agree on every single thing. Scotland is being asked if we should return to being an independent country or not.
Not whether we all agree on various subjects. That’d be for the people of Scotland to vote on post Indy.
I do get fed up with absolute roasters continually trying to add ad-ons like NATO, EU etc or they’ll throw their toys out of the pram. That’d be for an independent Scotland to decide. Its not what will be asked on the ballot paper.
But Scotland is not Northern Ireland. Scotland is one of the founder signatories of the Treaty of Union between the Kingdoms of Scotland and England.
Nothern Ireland was never a state. Scotland was an independent state until May 1707.
Nothern Ireland is a province that emerged as an entity after the rest of Ireland declared independence. Scotland is a country in itself and has been a country in itself for over many many centuries before the union. It has maintained its borders since May 1707 despite this union. The union was political, and did not include the transfer of territorial ownership between Scotland and England.
Because of this, Scotland is not seeking “to secede” from anything, as that document purports, to become independent. It does not need to.
Scotland can and should simply unilaterally terminate that treaty of union so the Kingdoms of Scotland and England can continue their separate paths. Legally, the only thing it needs to do so is a majority of Scotland’s MPs agreeing to end the union. That was what was required to start the union, therefore that is what is required to terminate it.
It is not a matter for “the UK”, for England’s representatives, for foreign-led “think tanks” or for anybody else’s security services to stick their nose in how the people of Scotland can organise its exit way. That is for Scotland, and Scotland only, to decide and choose.
Scotland does not need to negotiate with the “UK”. Scotland is as much the Uk as England is, therefore the idea that Scotland has to negotiate with itself is silly in itself. Without Scotland, there is no “UK”.
The partner Scotland has to negotiate the termination of the union, separation and division of assets is the Kingdom of England. And by negotiating termination of the union, I mean precisely that: how the termination is effected – ie dates, not IF termination can be done or how the people of Scotland should communicate their desire to effect that termination, or how valid it is considered by entities that are outwith Scotland and therefore have no business interfering. It is for nobody else, other than the people of Scotland, to decide.
Ireland never needed “a referendum” to communicate its desire to be independent and to become independent. The only thing they needed and used was a UK general election and then a bunch of MPs with a backbone to reconvene Ireland’s parliament.
Scotland is not the property of the Kingdom of England or “the UK”. Scotland is in a political union with the Kingdom of England, therefore the way out of this union is clear: to revoke the Treaty of Union ending that union.
The only thing we need is a mechanism to ditch the Scotland Act and restore the powers of Scotland’s parliament.
That mechanism could be through a political party that stands on a manifesto to revoke the Scotland Act, restore the powers of the Scotland’s old parliament and revoke the Treaty of Union. For this, it is required that the representatives of that political party do not swear allegiance to any monarch. At the moment, it seems that the only party that resembles that mechanism is ISP.
The alternative is through a popular convention, like the Convention of the States was. Given Scotland’s popular sovereignty, such convention could, independently from UK structures, organise its own consultation with the purpose of overruling Holyrood as it stands, tied in the Scotland Act straight jacket and behaving like a puppet of Westminster and the crown, and Scotland’s MPs, who become useless to Scotland the minute they swear allegiance to a foreign monarch.
Holyrood and the parasites currently sitting there may feel they have to abide by the Scotland Act to preserve their own salaries and perks. But such convention will not have that problem.
It seems to me there is a massive and concerted effort from all elements of the establishment across the UK, to present Scotland’s independence as impossible. The British establishment, including that think tank outfit, seem determined in their minds to, somehow, demote Scotland to the status of a province like Northern Ireland or to a region like Catalonia is.
Scotland is none.
And why can this possibly be? It is obvious. It is because the establishment may fear the prospect that, because it is perfectly legitimate for Scotland to do and because it has every right to end “the united kingdom of great Britain” unilaterally, fed up of waiting for a fair referendum that never arrived, it may just choose to do so. And about time.
Forcing us to wait for a stupid referendum for 10 bloody years after we sent 3 absolute majorities of anti-union MPs to Westminster was abuse and a violation of Scotland’s right to self-determination.
But the abuse was not Westmintser’s. It was from the very Scotland MPs themselves who, elected to deliver independence and to stand up for Scotland, chose instead to stand against Scotland and to collude with elements of the British state to forcefully deny Scotland’s right to self-determination, so they could keep lining their pockets with salaries, secure pensions, access to subsidised bars and perks at the expense of the yes supporters they were supposed to represent.
It seems to me that the controllers of the British state, wherever those are, cannot possibly cope with the idea of losing all that perceived power and influence that the UN seat, Nato seat, embassies, treaties, trade deals, etc, etc, etc, give them.
But the reality is that none of those goodies belong just to England. They are common assets to both partners and therefore they should be treated as such and used for the negotiation of separation. So shame of those who call themselves “Scotland’s representatives” and have, for the last 10 years, pathetically surrendered any attempt to properly represent Scotland’s interests and instead happily capitulated to the pressure of the English establishment by helping them to portray Scotland as a province or region of the kingdom of England instead of what it is: its equal partner in a political union.
If a referendum is accepted by the majority of Scotland’s natives as the route to follow, then the franchise for that referendum will have to be tighten up in line with constitutional referendums across the other European states, including the UK’s franchise for the EU referendum.
Otherwise it will never be a referendum on self-determination. It will be just another joke at the Scots’ expense like 2014 was. It will be another assault on the Scotland’s natives’ right to self determination and yet another sly mechanism to purposely suppress their will by using migrants form everywhere else with no allegiance to Scotland and who, just like it happened in 2014, may just leave Scotland within a year after the referendum.
Scotland does not need “to secede” from anything. That is misinformation. It simply needs to terminate the union with England reverting both, the Kingdom of England and the Kingdom of Scotland to their former status of independent states.
It will be then for NI to decide if it wants to continue shackled to England and form the “United Kingdom of England and Northern Ireland”, if it wishes to go solo, or if it wishes to unite with the rest of Ireland.
Great post, Mia.
The two kingdoms that negotiated the Treaty were equally sovereign when they did so in 1706. But by the time it came into effect in 1707, Scotland’s sovereignty had mysteriously vanished, while England’s had apparently expanded over Scotland.
How that came about is a real puzzle to us Scots because there was nothing at all in the Treaty they’d just negotiated, agreed, signed, and ratified that specified anything remotely resembling such an arrangement!
The Parliament of the United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland loves a precedent, and the Edinburgh Agreement (2012) is the precedent which has become a rod for our own backs.
The Edinburgh Agreement came about via an Oliver Twist-like approach to the Government at Westminster by the Government at Holyrood, with the former only agreeing to the process because…
*Yes was trailing in the polls
*The MSM were rabidly pro-Union
*HMQ could be called upon if needed (and was)
*West central Scotland Yoons could be emboldened by social club paramilitaries posing as marching bands being imported from Ulster to make the point that hard core Yoons didn’t intend going anywhere, let alone peacefully.
*Postal ballot returns could be ‘enhanced’ and pro-Union local authorities could be less than rigorous in their control of counts
*The pillar of democracy and Mother of Parliaments would be excused any external scrutiny as to the process being fair and meeting internationally recognised standards
*Spain would ensure any talk of future EU membership would be quashed
*NATO allies could be relied upon to pour cold water as/when required
*Westminster could pour scorn upon any hypothetical post-Yes negotiation, for example regarding Sterling, by simply refusing to engage
It’s a miracle that 52% of Scots voted Yes and only a 6% swing would’ve been sufficient to see those non-Scots who won the day for No being defeated.
Any talk of an alternative to the Edinburgh Agreement/IndyRef1 will be portrayed as being an attempt by the losing side to try to change the rules of the game, and in doing so acquire a means more favourable to their preferred outcome.
We shouldn’t be fretting over IndyRef2 – after IndyRef1 we should be running in the opposite direction!
“Clearly, Gray is Starmer’s Handler, not his “Chief of Staff”. All terribly redolent of Sturgeon’s visceral attachment to Liz Lloyd”
Wasn’t Gray also instrumental in bringing Johnson down?
Like or hate him, Johnson was the last popular leader among the tory party membership. I am of the opinion that it was bringing Johnson down what ultimately sealed the fate of the tory party in the GE. That is why so interesting that Gray appears to have been involved in both.
We all know that Starmer only won thanks to FPTP, because he relied on a meagre support and low turnout. Would he have been able to win if the tory leader was Johnson instead of the unpopular Sunak? Did the deep state need to put Sunak as leader to give Starmer the chance?
Who was instrumental in bringing Mr Salmond down? Who advised/encouraged him to resign in 2014 despite increasing support for independence from 23% in January 2013 to over 50% a week before the referendum and despite transforming the party from being a small one to become one of the biggest parties of the Uk in terms of membership?
Was that the reason why they made him resign?
It was Mr Salmond’s resignation what put the SNP on its path of irreversible controlled demolition under the betraying hand of Sturgeon (and her handler). It was her who suddenly transformed that party from being a vehicle of independence to becoming another useless party begging for devolution.
Was Lloyd instrumental in stopping Mr Salmond entering Westminster in 2017?
Was she instrumental in getting him to exit the SNP?
Was she instrumental in the destruction of his reputation?
Johnson had the party members’ backing. Truss did too, but only because Johnson could not be put forward as a candidate. She beat Sunak by over 20,000 votes. Sunak was the most unpopular of the three. He was parachuted to the post without a proper leadership election because they knew the members would not elect him.
Sturgeon, awful as she was, had the members’ backing. But the question remains: would she have been ever elected if Mr Salmond entered the leadership contest?
The election of Yousaf was beyond dubious and, just like for Sunak, Swinney didn’t even face a leadership contest, he was simply catapulted, by someone/something, to the post. His handlers could not even expose him to a leadership context against devolutionist Free-ports Forbes.
Both, Truss and Yousaf were terrible and had short tenures. Sunak and Swinney are even less popular and as if not even more useless. Yet, they were catapulted to the post by someone/something and forced on members they wanted them or not.
Do we see a pattern here? I think we do.
Both in the tory party and the SNP (and I dare say the labour party too), the dodgy leaders were elected only after their most popular leaders (Johnson, Salmond, Corbyn) were removed from the race by the hand of someone/something. That is why any claim the UK is a democracy is total bullshit.
Liz Lloyd was also involved in the campaign of Yousaf until Ms Regan spoke to the senior Civil Servant to bring this to his attention and note that doing so was a breach of the civil servants’ code.
Yet, Teflon Lloyd was never disciplined, never mind sacked. I find it very, very hard to believe that the most senior civil servant in Scotland was not aware of her doings.
Some claimed that Gray breached the civil servant’s code when she took the job as Starmer’s chief of staff. Yet, like teflon Lloyd, she was never disciplined.
What Sturgeon, Truss, Sunak, Yousaf and Swinney have in common is that they were absolutely useless to their respective countries as leaders. But they were/are good for whomever/whatever is controlling the British state.
It takes a particular kind of useless and spineless nationalist to get them to send Scotland’s stone of destiny to England, and to accept the raping of Scotland through free ports, or that outfit called “GB” Energy which symbolises the theft of Scotland’s energy. Swinney has proven to be so utterly useless and spineless that he could not even negotiate, despite all being Scotland’s energy, to put Scotland in the name of the outfit.
When you see things like the freeports and the theft of Scotland’s electricity, you start to wonder if Sturgeon, Yousaf, Swinney and Forbes are all MI5 candidates.
The question for me is who is controlling M15, MI6 and the deep state.
Is it the crown?
Is it the UK gov?
Is it controlling “itself”? if so how? or is it being controlled by the secret services of another state/s?
Who vets civil servants like Lloyd and Grey and who gets to decide that a particular civil servants will not be disciplined when they breach the civil service code?
Why weren’t they disciplined for breaching the code?
Was that because they were instructed to do so?
If so, by whom?
It ought to be fairly simple thing to bring evidence that Scotland joined the Union as a con seating partner to an equal endeavour, not as a supplicant. Nothing whatsoever gives English prior authority to become top dog, nothing whatsoever.
It is not enough to say that the Treaty is ancient history because it is, legally, underpins the UK constitution. If it doesn’t, then there can be no Union. If there is no Union, there can be no UK. The implications are so massive that it is not difficult to understand why lies are told about the Treaty and the Union.
Treaties are, by their very nature, international legal entities, which means that no domestic legislation pertaining to the Union can supersede that Treaty or cause any of its Articles to be thrust aside or to fall into desuetude. The Acts of Union are not primary legislation, but secondary legislation, domestic legislation, and, as such, could never have overturned international law. They still cannot do so. If you are lied to and told that they can – and people have believed that, the Scots and the English people, it is not hard to comprehend why so many English people believe we were conquered. It is all lies and we are fools to believe them.
This is a matter in international law for Scotland to take to the ICJ, as a matter of urgency. The political sphere should be a united front for independence. It is not that England and the British State cannot be overcome, it is that too many Scots are collaborators and fearties, and the top of the SNP, the supposed party of independence, has been compromised and is acting in the interests of the British State and not in Scotland’s interests. That is the truth of it. So much of history, here and elsewhere, is simply a tissue of lies.
Mia, you are correct. They are not Scotland’s representatives, they are England’s representatives in Scotland. Useful colonised idiots. England never gets mentioned in the debate, it is as you say, not Scotland vs the UK, but Scotland vs England, and how long before they mention racism. England needs to find its own identity, its own resources and stop depending on colonising others, including Scotland. Grow a pair England, be a good neighbour and pay for what you take. Ultimately you will grow and learn and have a great potential to be a nation again, standing on your own two feet. You can do it. We can for sure, and will.
Another great post by Mia followed by one of Xaracens,it appears that the John smith centre and their resident very highly paid MORON have been instructed to cobble together some pish to placate and quieten the current displeasure of independence supporters at the ongoing and forthcoming destruction of our social services by Labour eagerly supported by the Scum Nonce Party and their deviants
WM has been trying for decades to rewrite the COR and to get Scots to sign away their birthright, they are continuously working to undermine and destroy Scots SOVEREIGNTY , THIS is just another plan to chip away at our sovereignty by inferring that we NEED WM as england graceful permission to hold a referendum with ALL CONDITIONS being set by our colonisers, there are indeed many even on here who would gladly sign away their birthright because they are brit scots not Scot brits and unfortunately our political parties are staffed entirely by them apart from ISP
IF WM as engerland was SO POWERFUL why has EVERY PM since 2014 stated that “Now is not the time” instead of we will NEVER grant another independence referendum because by law we can do so , they CANNOT destroy or rip up the COR because THAT would destroy the TOU, THAT is why they want to AMEND it and to do so they NEED Scots to accept the amendments
As Stu has pointed out the MORON and her sidekick have NO AUTHORITY to propose ANYTHING and even if they did the conditions would be untenable, has Gordy Broon the tr@it or been seen in Glasgow Uni The Vow version 2
The ONLY thing stopping independence is political COWARDS and LIARS
Lorna Campbell @ 5:21 pm
“This is a matter in international law for Scotland to take to the ICJ, as a matter of urgency.”
Indeed so. It remains a great puzzle as to why SNP nationalist governments have never attempted to do this, especially given the many violations to the ToU. Scotland’s constitution and treaty arrangement with England is a pretty clear cut matter under international law. Once a treaty agreement is no longer in the signatory nation’s interest it is ended:
https://yoursforscotlandcom.wordpress.com/2021/08/08/determinants-of-independence-constitution/
Mia
Great post.
The UK government has no authority over Scotland. Eejits from the ‘The University Of Glasgow’s Centre For Public Policy’ are trying to imply Scotland is subordinate to England & no higher in the pecking order than a provence ffs. What planet are these morons on? Dugdale still proving she has no brains.
We’re the other half of the UK. A sovereign nation & it gave hee-haw authority to the English. Studies like these should be treated with the contempt they deserve. A parasitic nation trying desperately to cling onto territory, vast waters & wealth that doesn’t belong to them.
If the English wanted to leave does anyone think Kezia & Co would come out with the pish that they couldn’t? They’d need a section 30 or permission from Scots? No, me neither.
This bullshit only tries to legitimise fake news. Made up bullshit that they shouldn’t have wasted their time on.
Mia 5:20
“Both in the tory party and the SNP (and I dare say the labour party too), the dodgy leaders were elected only after their most popular leaders (Johnson, Salmond, Corbyn) were removed from the race by the hand of someone/something. That is why any claim the UK is a democracy is total bullshit.”
We know who it is. Clue, they go off on an all expenses paid wee jolly the moment they become MPs. Its mandatory.
Its foreign interference as exposed by the Labour Files.
Johnson was jettisoned because he was a loose cannon & would blab the bit out loud he wasn’t supposed to, just like he’s doing on the international circuit at the moment telling everyone Western Hegemony is under threat LOL What a plank.
Scotland isn’t immune from those same lobby groups. They’ve tried desperately to try get a bit of their usual modus operandi introduced to Scotland (Denise + Neale deselected)
Yvonne Ridley wrote an excellent article about this a year or so ago & Police Scotland & The Fringe is even captured. They’re staunchly anti Scottish independence cause they need their UK puppet on the seat of the security council to continue acting like a tit on the world stage & ignore what their eyes & ears tell them.
26 September, 2024 at 11:44 pm
“Eejits from the ‘The University Of Glasgow’s Centre For Public Policy’ are trying to imply Scotland is subordinate to England & no higher in the pecking order than a provence ffs”
Of course they do. The British establishment they work for is desperate to ensure England remains as the “united kingdom” state after Scotland’s independence.
Right now, if Scotland unilaterally ends the treaty of union, England can only become the successor state with Scotland’s consent. Scotland has the exact same right as England to demand being the successor state.
Presenting Scotland as a region/portion that simply exits the UK, so the UK remains as the main entity, would avoid having to terminate the treaty, which is, in my view, what they are desperate to preserve at all costs.
In my view, this is the reason why they have been busy devising alternatives to revoking the treaty using some kind of fudge around their beloved “parliamentary sovereignty”. And here it is one of the attempts:
“Act of Union Bill [HL]
Private Members’ Bill (Starting in the House of Lords)
Originated in the House of Lords, Session 2017-19
Last updated: 9 October 2019 at 10:28
Long title
A Bill to provide a renewed constitutional form for the peoples of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, to continue to join together to form the United Kingdom, to affirm that the peoples of those nations and parts have chosen, subject to and in accordance with the provisions of this Act, to continue to pool their sovereignty for specified purposes, and to protect social and economic rights for citizens”
This bill is in its second reading, but it has not progressed since 2019. Thank goodness.
First of all, it is not a proper treaty, but rather an “Act of Union”, therefore domestic law. In my opinion it does not substitute the real treaty, it simply adds a domestic layer over it to hide it a bit more.
It seems to me that this “Act of Union” would aim to completely demote Scotland to the status of a province of England.
In this new “Act of Union”, the “union” is not between Scotland and England, but rather between, England, Scotland, NI and Wales. But England remains, of course, in full control of the UK parliament. So, if Scotland leaves, the “united kingdom” remains intact.
It actually purports to offer a mechanism to that effect. It offers a mechanism for Scotland to exit the UK through a referendum via domestic law (fully controlled by England as the UK and its crown, of course) without having to even touch the original treaty, because all negotiation of independence and who grants independence is this new “UK Parliament” through an Act of this Parliament. In other words, Scotland becomes a part of and subordinated to this new parliament.
Because the original treaty remains intact, I am not quite sure what happens with “Great Britain”. I guess is that the idea behind this is that the English crown continues to control the Scottish one. They will probably fudge all that too.
This Act of Union also purports to legitimise the Supreme Court, whose legitimacy under the Treaty of Union is quite dubious. This new Act gives this English court full supremacy over all other courts on Scotland, Wales and NI. I am of the opinion this remains to be a direct breach of the treaty of union.
When you look deeper, you realise that everything continues to be exactly as it is now, with England being given priority and control over everything, over every decision and over every other nation.
The only differences with now are that it provides:
a mechanism to demote Scotland to the status of a region of England, just like Wales and NI
a mechanism to devolve power to England but without losing control over the whole UK
a mechanism to reform/abolish the HoL
a mechanism to reduce the number of total MPs to a meagre 146, making the representation of NI, Wales and Scotland pretty much insignificant.
a mechanism to change the name of the Bank of England to the “Bank of the UK”.
and critically, a mechanism to change the name of the state. By the look of it, it may pass to be simply called “United Kingdom”.
It is interesting that this new “Act of Union” proposes that to start there must be an initiation referendum:
“53 Commencement principle
(1) The preceding Parts of this Act shall not come into force unless their commencement is approved in a referendum held in accordance with this Part (“the commencement referendum”) by all of the following—
(a) a majority consisting of at least 65% of the votes cast in the United
Kingdom as a whole; and
(b) a majority of the votes cast in England; and
(c) a majority of the votes cast in Scotland; and
(d) a majority of the votes cast in Wales; and
(e) a majority of the votes cast in Northern Ireland.
(2) In this section “votes” means valid votes. a referendum that is in domestic law, seeking to avoid having to resource to international law and ending that treaty”
Either the person who wrote this paragraph cannot count, does not have a clue about the populations of England, Scotland, NI and Wales, or thinks we are all thick and would not notice.
According to Google, for 2020 the population of the UK was
67,081,234. The population of England was 56,550,138
65% of 67,081,234 was 43,602,802.1
The population of Scotland+Wales+NI combined was 10,531,096
Even in the impossible event that the entire population of Scotland+Wales+NI voted for this thing, it would still be required that 33,071,706.1 of England also voted for it. That figure represents around 58.5% of England’s population.
In other words, England is given a veto over everybody else, just as it has now. Unless a 60% of England votes for it, it does not happen.
Is also interesting the content of section (2) above which says: “In this section “votes” means valid votes”.
Clearly, they are just ensuring that the inconvenient spoiled ballots do not get counted at all. Probably they do not get even counted as “turnout”.
There is another interesting thing for this “initiation” referendum: the franchise
Here it is, loud and clear:
“58 Franchise
(1) A person who would be entitled to vote in a general election held on the day of the referendum is entitled to vote in the referendum.
(2) No other person is entitled to vote in the referendum”
There you go, a restrictive franchise and not an open one like the indyref was where everybody who was for 5 min in Scotland was able to vote. What a bunch of “ethno-nativists” these Brits are, huh? Yet, I don’t see any of those pro-wide open franchise criticising them.
And what happens if a majority of the people in Scotland, Wales, NI or England vote against this Act? Nothing. Business continues as usual, because this Act was never designed to offer an exit for the present union where the treaty is exposed to be revoked. It only offers an exit to Scotland from this fake new “UK” that they appear to be planning.
The fact that it requires a referendum to start may explain why it has stalled since 2019. They still cannot guarantee at this point that Scotland would vote yes to this crap, even after Sturgeon took a chainsaw to the principles, reputation, competence and integrity of the SNP, even after she forcefed us all with the self-id gender woowoo crap an put rapists in female prisons, even after Yousaf enacted the hate crime bill and send the stone of destiny down south, even after the threat of the freeports and the plans of this new GB entity to devour our electricity while we are charged over the odds for it, etc.
However, this bill, or something similar to this but more elaborate, could explain why the political fraud Sturgeon, yousaf, Swinney or Forbes never were in any hurry to call a referendum, and forced us to wait and wait and wait despite knowing a S30 would never arrive.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Dugdale’s paper is based on this bill. Let’s remember this, published by the BBC on December 2016:
“Kezia Dugdale calls for ‘new Act of Union’
“Kezia Dugdale has called for a “new Act of Union” in a bid to “save the UK for generations to come”.
I speculated at the time that Bojo was removed for not being compliant enough. His removal at the time made no other sense to me.
The only way you could get something as vile as Starmer ‘elected’ was to make the alternatives so bad that people really had no choice.
Even then the turnout tells the real story. No one voted ‘for’ Starmer it was voting anti-tory, anti-snp as they were so fucking bad we had no alternative.
Starmer is 100% the ‘covert operations’ candidate. (Calling them the intelligence services is a bit of a misnomer these days.)
The death of John Smith paving the way for Tony scumbag Blair is another very dubious event. I don’t think most people comprehend how involved these wankers are.
Honest decent people in politics are the exception not the rule. And they all become targets of them if they get anywhere near real power.
They are the secret police, the Stasi, for the people who really hold power in the UK. And Starmer is their man make no mistake. That is why he is such a dislikeable cunt. People can instinctively sense what a creepy fake he is as soon as he steps out of the shadows. Starmer means war. He always did. That is why he was placed into the slot.
Judging by the way the UK is acting my guess is there are real structural economic problems there that are being covered up. They are panicking. And they see war (with Ru$$ia) as their ‘way out’, So you know it is fucked up.
Personally I think the UK has been totally engulfed by this evil. Blair was pivotal in this regard. Same as the US. It is very sad to witness as the people in these countries are not bad. They are more victims. I feel like a complete stranger in my own country, in the west. None of this has anything to do with me or anyone I know. We are unwilling passengers.
Independence would not have protected us from it. Look at all the independent countries in Europe in its grip irrespective.
Mac
Ignored
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27 September, 2024 at 7:20 am
Independence would not have protected us from it. Look at all the independent countries in Europe in its grip irrespective.
I mostly agreed with all you said until there Mac.
The UK and Europe’s disease is NeoLiberalism, and while not immune to its effect, the Norwegians have found a way to keep their industries thriving. I believe Scotland could have done likewise.
I stress “could” have… but not under the tre@cher0us dunce Sturgeon of course, nor any of the SNP imbeciles who apparently don’t know what their genitals look like, for that matter.
But under “proper”, mature and enlightened control, Scotland’s Independence could have been the very thing to save us, especially with the BRICS / EU friendly Scapa Flow bulk feight thing happening… (provided the US didn’t bomb or mine our waters).
In this parallel reality, Scotland would find itself in excellent fettle, well placed in a new and Multipolar world, and even allowed to make a strategic blunder now and then, as you’d have to expect for 300+ years hibernation and colonial exploitation.
Of course Sir Kid Starver is covert operations manager.
Corbyn was too much of a threat & had to be removed. He wouldn’t have gone along with this geno-cide in Palestine for a start. Or the warmongering hawks at the EU. Possibly even recognise Scotland had a legitimate mandate that couldn’t be ignored much longer.
So the *foreign* press absolutely slaughtered him, the plants within Labour defied him, mocked him, accused him of anti semitism & the geno-cidal maniacs took to the streets in *organised* protest calling for him to be beheaded & removed.
Foreign interests are running this shit show. Money talks & Westminster is awash with it in the form of unelected Lobbyists & a foreign owned media pushing scripts.
The crash is coming & teeny tiny UK will be hit first because they own absolutely nothing to fall back on & it won’t be able to print money any longer. Jettisoned back to the dark ages & austerity on stilts. No EU either to try weather the storm as a collective cause they’re going down too.
They’ve discovered, much to their arrogance, BRICS countries don’t need a single thing from them. Their sanctions backfired. Blowing up their cheap energy backfired. Antagonising a super power backfired. Stealing a countries reserves to give to its enemy has backfired. All it did was make them self sufficient & look for alternatives & they’ve found it. Necessity the mother of invention & all that..& they are so far advanced across all sectors that the West is losing its shit because it can’t compete. Too busy playing world police & drunk on its own self importance to see others were organising & getting their shit together.
America won’t survive in its current state. It imports way more than it exports & it can no longer print money cause no one wants to buy its debts. That’s what happens when you think you can just take another countries reserves. All the laughing hyenas can congratulate themselves.
Now Afghanistan wants to join BRICS lol! After 20 yrs of spending billions warring it achieved fck all.
The UN is threatening to disband. They’re not interested in the Pact for the Future lol which is basically to adopt the shiny new rules based order, according to the USA, & dump international law. Umm, that’s a negative.
So all it has left in its bag of tricks is nukes. It has to get its mitts on someone else’s resources & quick.
Winter is coming.
27 September, 2024 at 10:17 am
“If the support for Indy is there, the mechanism to demonstrate that support and get a majority vote in favour of Indy is there”
Support for indy in 2015 was over 50%, as judged by the over 50% who voted for pro-independence parties on the GE2015.
We demonstrated that support with our vote, we got a majority of the vote on the May election 2015 and we got an absolute majority of anti-union MPs.
The expectation was that those anti-union MPs would get up their fat arses, reconvene the old Scotland’s parliament and revoke the treaty of union, rather than getting comfortable on the seats and proceeding to line their pockets and guts in the subsidised bars.
When we voted in 2016 and 2021 for a majority of pro-independence MSPs, we also expected them to get their arses in gear and progress independence. We expected them TO DELIVER our mandate for an independence referendum within that parliament, not to piss all over it and hand a veto to England MPs for free as they did.
When we voted in the EU referendum by 62% against Brexit, we expected that the parasites who claimed to represent us would actually represent us and issue an ultimatum to our Kingdom of England partner in this union: either the UK remains in the EU, or the union disbands and the kingdoms of England and Scotland go their separate ways.
Once again we were ignored.
So yes, the mechanism TO SHOW support for independence is there and we have used it successfully several times already. We should have only need to use it once. Yet, in the context of this union, we are expected to continue expressing that support over and over and over and over and over and over again and still nothing is done about it.
For as long as those who claim to represent us swear allegiance to a foreign crown and put the interests of that foreign crown ahead of the interests of Scotland, what we do not have and will never have, if we continue playing by the crooked rules of this game which is deliberately rigged against us, is a mechanism TO EFFECT and implement that desire for independence. In other words, we have been deliberately placed in a hamster’s wheel where we are expected to keep running but never get anywhere.
For the last 10 years we have been in a loop, demanding to show support for independence over and over and over again, but never allowed to progress it because we have been relying on parasites who have no interest whatsoever in progressing it: aka the gatekeepers of the union.
That is what each and every single political party in both Holyrood and Westminster have been to Scotland.
“And it’s all legal, all day, every day”
It is also considered “legal” in this UK context to continue to piss all over the people of Scotland’s democratic mandates, to piss all over our Claim of Right, despite being a fundamental condition of the ToU, and to breach, as many times as they wish, every single fundamental condition included in the ToU.
It is also “legal” in the UK context, to usurp our constitutional popular sovereignty and force on us the English only convention of “parliamentary sovereignty”. It is also “legal” in the UK context to completely ignore the ToU and force on us an English court “so called UK Supreme Court” which, somewhat, is allowed to tramp the rulings of our Supreme court in Scotland and even given England judges applying English law the power to put our own effing legislative body into a straight jacket.
It is also “legal” under this context of the UK and, despite pretending it is a democracy, to have an unelected representative of the crown sitting in the middle of what should have been a democratically elected government cabinet, policing our legislation, and then, against every principle of democracy, having that representative of a foreign crown stealing from the people of Scotland control over the legislative and executive powers and handing them to that crown as a way to stop legislation the crown does not like entering our own parliament.
The minute the people of Scotland sent 56 anti-union MPs to Westminster, when we issued a mandate for an independence referendum in 2016, and when we voted against brexit which put us on a collusion course with the path England chose, the UK union was put on notice, each and every time. That is the reality. Yet, those who claimed to represent us, decided to betray us, ignore it and allow the British state to continue business as usual.
If the people of Scotland demands an independence referendum, as we did in 2016 and every election until, and including 2021, then it means the UK union does no longer have the consent from Scotland to continue and Westminster does no longer have Scotland’s consent to operate on its behalf until that time that referendum takes place and the people of Scotland decide.
To ignore that and force Scotland to continue in this union and worse, abuse that time to force on us toxic legislation to rob our resources and control our territory, legislation we never asked for, actually point blank reject and is completely against our interests is, at all effects, imposing absolute rule on Scotland, a direct violation of the Claim of Right and an indirect violation of the ToU.
That should have been sufficient for those parasites claiming to represent Scotland both in Holyrood and Westminster to get up the seats and terminate the union on the basis that a fundamental condition was breached, therefore the ToU is null and void in line with the fundamental principle of pacta sunt servanda in international law.
Something being “legal” in the Uk in the constitutional context does not necessarily mean that it is legal under Scotland’s constitution or international law. Something being deemed “illegal” in the UK in that constitutional context does not necessarily mean it is illegal under Scotland’s own constitution or international law.
Scotland is not the property of the Kingdom of England or its crown. Scotland is a co-signatory of the Treaty of Union and has every legal right to unilaterally terminate it at any point of its choosing.
If that has not happened yet it is only because we have parasites pretending to represent us in both Holyrood and Westminster who, in reality, only are there to line their pockets and act as the useful idiots of the crown at the expense of the needs and wants of the people. Their only job appears to be the putting the interests of everybody else ahead of Scotland’s.
So, in the constitutional context, saying something is “legal” or “illegal” when applying the English-only convention of “parliamentary sovereignty”, is completely meaningless.
The union between the kingdoms of Scotland and England cannot be controlled by domestic law, which is what Westminster issues. It has to be controlled by international law, because both kingdoms were independent states when that treaty was signed, and Westminster is just a byproduct of that treaty and therefore it is not above Scotland or England. It can only rule on their behalf for as long as they give consent.
Scotland revoked that consent in 2015, 2016, 2016 again, 2017, 2019 and 2021. Yet, here we are. Stuck in the same hamster’s wheel.
The spanner in the works was that if it was solely for the residents of Scotland to decide our future, then what the fuck was the cuckoo in the nest UK MSM (which is predominantly based in England and aligned and supportive of its and UK needs) doing broadcasting its clearly biased influential shite in Scotland during the campaign…
“what the fuck was the cuckoo in the nest UK MSM (which is predominantly based in England and aligned and supportive of its and UK needs) doing broadcasting its clearly biased influential shite in Scotland during the campaign”
Absolutely. And I would go even further: what were the three English leaders of England’s three main political parties, each and every one of them representing a constituency in England, sticking their nose in the campaign?
And how much money donated by members of those parties in England or from donors based outside Scotland was used to campaign against a yes vote?
How much “UK” money was directed by the UK government (a byproduct of the treaty of union and therefore subordinated to the union, not above it) to the no campaign?
Why was the “UK” civil service involved in the process at all and even being allowed to breach the civil service code by “working all together to save the union”?
How on earth was that not ever seen as direct unlawful interference from external interests attempting to derail a yes vote?
The whole thing was a complete joke, riddled with unlawful external interference and rigged against a yes vote from the very start.
Andy Ellis said;
“Voting franchises for constitutional votes or elections in already independent states ARE NOT THE SAME as the franchise used in self determination referendums.”
Don’t be silly, Andy, it’s you who is making a false distinction on the matter! Both of these kinds of plebiscites are specifically constitutional in nature, and thus constitutionally valid franchises are entirely relevant to both. Neither are simple elections, so an ordinary electoral franchise is not appropriate.
It is actually even more important for a self determination referendum in a colonial situation for the franchise to actively prioritise the native population of the relevant territory explicitly to block the colonisers’ votes or ‘conditions’ from muddying the outcome, and that is unequivocally stated by the UN’s own decolonisation committee. There’s a reason it’s called self-determination.
And even if you are right on some examples, it does not mean your stance is right for Scotland’s situation, for the simple reason that Scotland is an actual sovereign nation of centuries-long standing with its own Treaty-guaranteed constitution, its own distinct monarchy, and its own distinct legal system, and its ‘legal’ subjugation by England’s establishment in Westminster is NOT formally supported by anything agreed in the Treaty or Acts of Union. England’s authority is bogus, and it cannot be allowed to interfere with Scotland’s right to self determination in any way at all.
“Applying restrictions based on citizenship and length of residence requires an independent state which sets what the citizenship and/or residence criteria are.”
And thus the essence of self-determination soars far over your rubber head!
Remember the foreign leaders too invited to stick their nebb in.
The fake ‘no borders’ pish on the BBC 24/7
The fake ‘You’ll be stranded abroad’ ads in the cinema.
The fake ‘vote naw’ to save yer job.
The fake “You’ll not get a transplant/A pension” etc
The foreign interference traced back to Isr with the warm cup of coco pish. Currently lording it up in the Lords..
Who can forget Barosso on the BBC 24/7 telling us we’ll not get into the EU.
It was just wall to wall English & foreign interference & not a single thing they said was true.
“Applying restrictions based on citizenship and length of residence requires an independent state which sets what the citizenship and/or residence criteria are”
Mr Ellis, we have had this discussion far too many times already and it always brings us back to the exact same point. I will repeat it to you once again, despite having already written it here countless times:
You are incorrect. And the evidence is as follows:
Please take a look at The Falklands. They are not “an independent state”. They are a “British overseas territory”, modern terminology for colony.
Now take a look at their own criteria to be able to vote in their referendums. To vote in their referendums, people requires what they call “Falklands Islands Status”.
Now take a look at what “Falkland Islands Status” represents and what criteria you have to fulfill in order to receive it and being able to vote.
You will see that it is mostly based in the place you were born, the place of birth of your parents and length of residence in the Falklands. This is not out of the ordinary, mind. This is precisely what every other country in the world considers as criteria to vote in their constitutional referendums.
For those who were not born in the Falklands or were not born from somebody born in the Falklands, the minimum length of residence before they can apply for such status is SEVEN years.
If a colony as tiny as the Falklands can manage by themselves such registry, it is completely unthinkable that Scotland, a country in a voluntary union with England, a country which has had a parliament and government within the uK for over 20 years, a country that has to keep registries for local, government and union elections and to pay the council tax, cannot create its own “Scotland status registry” akin to what the Falklands have.
Now please take a look at Gibraltar.
It is not an “independent state” either, is it?
Please take a look at their criteria for people to vote in their referendums. As an example, look at the referendum they held in 2021, which was 7 years after our own 2014 referendum and already 3 years ago. Who could vote in that referendum?
“British, aged 16 or over who have been resident in Gibraltar for 10 YEARS OR MORE on the 24 June 2021, or persons registered or entitled to be registered as Gibraltarians
will be eligible to vote”
Who can be registered as “Gibraltarians” or have “Gibraltarian status”?
“A person is eligible to be registered as a Gibraltarian if they are a British national and:
(a) They were born in Gibraltar on or before the 30th day of June 1925; or
(b) They are child of a person born in Gibraltar on or before the 30th day of June 1925; or
(c) They are the descendant of a person entitled to be registered by virtue of (a) or (b) and their parent or grandparent was born in Gibraltar; or
(d) They were born in Gibraltar and are the child of a person who is registered in the register; or
(e) They are married to a person entitled to be register by virtue of (a, b, c or d) or are the widow or widower of such a person.
Further provisions provide for the registration of adopted children.”
There. If a colony as small as Gibraltar could manage to have such register, at least since 2021, so could a country like Scotland.
Now, the main difference between Scotland and The Falklands and Gibraltar is that, while The Falklands are trying to keep out Argentinians from its referendums and Gibraltar is trying to keep the Spanish out of its referendums, Scotland needs to keep the rUK from interfering in its referendums.
THAT is the only reason why Scotland is being told that it “cannot” have its own citizenship registry and THAT is the only reason why none of the parasites populating Holyrood or Westminster claiming to represent us but not doing so, have ever or will ever make a meaningful move to create that darn registry.
The thing is it is not difficult and it would be really, really useful to have started that registry already by 2014 because something like that is going to be needed to establish who is going to get citizenship of Scotland or “Scotland’s status” once Scotland becomes independent. What cannot be done is to simply open the floodgates and let everybody and their dog to enter and vote so they can dilute the voice of the native population even further. Doing so would be complete and utter madness. And that is why no other country in the world (or colony, by looking at the Falklands and Gibraltar) entertains such a thing.
Make what you wish of it.
“Voter qualification
The decision about entitlement to vote in sovereignty referendums entails two equally legitimate principles, which may, in most cases, be at odds with each other: universal suffrage and right to self-determination. Historical practice and law of sovereignty referendums use two criteria to reconcile conflicting rights and principles: nativity and residence.
In East Timor referendum for example, persons born outside of the territory but having at least one East Timorese parent, were entitled to vote. Yet this was not always the case. In the Brexit referendum, the UK High Court upheld a 15-year limit of absence for the British citizens’ right to vote, who lived abroad. The difference is mostly due to the pre-referendum history. When the political context is stable and peaceful before and during the referendum, it appears that the residency criterion outweighs the ethnic or birth criterion.”
“I dunno what Salmond was thinking tbh”
I honestly think he did the best he could with the limited tools he had at his disposal.
Please remember that he had a majority in HOlyrood but not in Westminster.
And we all know that, for as long as it remains in the straight jacket of the Scotland Act, Holyrood is not a real parliament. It is just a local colonial administration.
It is really and have always been Scotland’s MPs who hold the power to end the union. They are the direct representatives of Scotland’s old parliament and therefore hold the powers of that parliament.They are the ones who hold the so called “reserved” powers.
It is only because they are spineless and continuously choose to hand those powers over to their English counterparts, instead of exercising them themselves, that the later are empowered and think they have a claim over Scotland.
To force a referendum, the only thing the SNP MPs had to do was to lift their arses from the green seats, stop looking towards the subsidised bars and restaurants in Westminster for a moment, and do their job: threat the UK gov and crown with immediately reconvening the old Scotland’s parliament to put the union on hold until that referendum took place. There. Job done.
Threatening to reconvene the old Scottish parliament is what Scotland’s MPs and peers did in 1710-11 in the context of the Hamilton affair.
Mr Salmond did not have an anti-union MP majority at his disposal like the political fraud Sturgeon had. He only had 6 MPs, if I remember correctly. The rest were pro-colonial MPs from England’s parties. So he really needed the UK government to act as an intermediate.
For what I recall from reading through Hansard’s records, he might have got Cameron to speak to Scotland’s MPs from Labour and libdems and got them to agree to have the referendum.
And this is what I mean. The power to hold that referendum was not in Holyrood and never was (unless the Scotland Act was ditched, which was not). For as long as our MSPs continue to worship the Scotland Act, the power to hold a referendum will always reside with the custodians of Scotland’s parliament, and those are Scotland’s MPs, not England’s ones.
Both, Westminster and the UK gov are by-products of the treaty of union, and therefore subordinated to the parliaments of Scotland and England. Because of this it is ludicrous to even suggest that the so called UK gov has any legitimacy in denying a referendum to Scotland. Cameron and Clegg understood this very well, and that is why they never denied it.
Personally, I do not believe May or Johnson actually denied the referendum to Scotland. I am convinced it was the political fraud Sturgeon who did and, in collusion with the UK gov, presented them as the bogeymen so she could continue to dupe us all with her carrot dangling while she keep the yes movement on a leash to kill its momentum and actively dismantled the democratic structures of the SNP rendering it a shell.
For what I read in some BBC article at the time, Mr Salmond did not beg for a S30 like the pathetic Sturgeon did. He did not even ask for one. For what I read in that article, in fact, at the time, it was somebody from the UK government who actually offered it.
When Keith Brown said that the UK gov was never going to give us a S30, in my opinion, the reason when he did that is becasue Scotland does not have an anti-union MP majority any longer. Pro-colonial Labour Mps pretending to “represent” Scotland will never agree to it. I am of the opinion this scenario is what Sturgeon’s SNP had been working since 8 May 2015.
Looking retrospectively, the only two things I would dare criticise from what Mr Salmond did in 2014 was the franchise and to have followed the guidance of whomever arsehole advised him to resign.
Mr Salmond did not lose on that referendum. Quite the opposite. Independently that I personally think that Yes won that referendum and the “official” result we were given was bogus, even if we look past that, Mr Salmond made independence a real possibility. He put independence in the map for Scotland. He said he was going to deliver a referendum and he did. And he managed to bring support for independence from 23% at the beginning to 2013 to over 50% at least the week over the referendum and, in my opinion, for quite a bit of time after the referendum took place. He completely changed the political landscape.
He left the yes movement in the perfect position and with all the tools required to score their goal. And we would have done, had the yes movement not been saddled with the toom tabard Sturgeon.
sam @ 4:58 pm
“if the referendum is to determine whether such a subject should become independent, it is precisely for the putative members of this subject to decide”
Yes, it is inevitably the case that ‘independence is a matter only for the colonized group’ (Memmi). Being oppressed as an ethnic group, liberation must also be of that group. This also explains why an independence movement is dependent on the solidarity of the oppressed group, in our case the Scots. Other ethnic groups may or may not be sympathetic to our liberation cause, but Scottish independence is not about their liberation.
27 September, 2024 at 10:48 pm
yr man still going on about the ” International Community ” ( by which he means the West ) : have you seen the state of this ” International Community ” ?
Why-the-fuck would any sane country want to be part of THAT , let alone be concerned about whether it would ” recognise ” Scotland if it/we did what we should have done years ago , ie find a way to generate majority support ( by being bold for a change , rather than nice n timid ) , ditto a way to demonstrate that majority ( eg Pleb Election ) , then declare the * Union * done , over , fckn kaput .
The whole ” recognition ” thing is just another imaginary bogeyman , like all the other Better Together fearmongering pish
Did any of the countries that have liberated themselves from oppressive colonial/colonialesque domination , eg from the British , Spanish and – presently – U.S Empires ask or wait for the imprimatur of any such ” International Community ” before severing their shackles ? Naw , they didnae , they just acted .
Whilst we would not advocate any kind of – literal – armed struggle , it will require the same type of psychological commitment & martial mentality as those countries who have fought for and won their independence if we’re ever to overcome the * forces * arrayed against us achieving the restoration of our status as an Independent Sovereign Nation .
Anyone thinking appeals to ” Democracy ” and ” fair play ” alone will somehow , magically , be answered positively in the current , manifestly psychotic/corrupt ” Reality Show ” that is West Politics is living in Dreamland .
27 September, 2024 at 10:57 pm
NATO is a colonising enterprise. Do we not know that already?
*It sets up shop on a huge chunk of free real estate.
*That free real estate is Sovereign to NATO.
*NATO is UNELECTED.
*They are exempt from all laws of their host nation.
*They can do anything they want in that patch of land, be it nukes, biolabs, chemicals, torture terrorists or missiles & government has hee haw say on the matter.
*You automatically accept Americas foreign policy & any other policy they choose & that includes gender shit.
* 32 countries have to agree to defend you. If one says naw, that’s tough. You’ve paid into the club for nothing.
*If America picks a fight you cannot refuse to go & they’re always picking a fight.
*You must buy their weapons but only they know how to use them so they’ll deploy yet more GI Joes to yer country as *Intel*
* The ‘Reviewed every ten years’ is bullshit. They extend it when it’s about to expire & make it PERMANENT.
*The host nation MUST pay for its upkeep & anything needing renewed.
*All military personnel don’t pay taxes to their host nation .
*Percentage of GDP on top of renewal costs..
So pray tell why you think Scotland, having just left one colonisers, would annex Faslane to another coloniser under a different name? Sign up to someone else’s foreign policy? And have heehaw say on what goes on there? It would be a constant boil on Scotlands arse PLUS Scotland would have its of navy, it’s own patrol boats when we’re Indy for our vast sea boundaries. Faslane will be used.
Scotland would be asked in a referendum & ALL the facts laid out. Sweden & Finland already have buyers remorse. There was no public referendum & they’re not happy with nukes. Germany is also not happy they’re getting new ones either. NATO is a busted flush. It also breaks international law & isn’t peacekeeper but tyrant thinking nothing of obliterating civilians or carrying out/ funding acts of terrorism under the guise it wasn’t them.
Even one of them at the EU (Forget his name) said NATO is finished & countries should just have their own defense. You can scrap the EU too from yer *to- latch-on-to-indy-list* because they’re not interested in anything other than making the EU an extension of the US military industrial complex & writing out sanctions.
27 September, 2024 at 11:31 pm
I’m wondering if French farmers give two fucks what La Communauté Internationale thinks with their Gold Standard Rules Based Order pish when said farmers protest and get shit done.
I’m not seeing much outrage from the International Community and all those WEF COP wazzocks when it comes to vehicle manufacturers making and offloading endless shite products on to an unsuspecting public.
Got to laugh when folk are so fucking gullible to think the same bunch of corporate vehicle manufacturing twats that have deviated so far from sound and proven engineering protocols to produce massively flawed products, are somehow going to make perfect planet saving leccy vehicles.
As an aside, diz anybody ken if yon Dr Oetker is a big proponent of the genderwoowoo?
Found an old pizza in the freezer and a little concerned the meat on it might be sourced from the residual waste of gender reassignment operations.
#PizzaMeatFightClubStyle
28 September, 2024 at 12:10 am
Mia
Yes, they stuck their nebb in.
Cackling Clinton is pure evil. Have you heard her tape? Absolutely vile cretin. I can see why Sturgeon had an attraction.
& Obama, two hypocrites that had no business sticking their nose in who must’ve forgotten they Jettisoned the English themselves but we’d be better to keep them..
Regards the oil – President Obama met with the Saudi King to beg him to increase production to flood the market. It was done to harm Rs economy as the US were overthrowing the elected president of U at the same time & the Maidan conflict was in full swing. Cameron would’ve stuck his nebb in for sure. It was unfortunate our indyref was happening at the same time. It also now makes me wonder why we had R observers? All dodgy Dave no doubt.
The US weaponise & manipulate everything & why BRICS is growing as countries look to break away from the constant drama the US causes where their country feels the constant effect the Americans have caused. America sneezes & the whole world catches a cold is true right enough. I recently found out too that the IMF is another one they heavily manipulate. They don’t agree to loans unless that country adopts their wackadoo policies & charges poor countries higher rates, penalties & sanctions keeping them constantly poor. Jeez, they’re into loan sharking too lol
Aye, I can really see rural African countries spreading trans joy & net zero at their new water pump! Not.
28 September, 2024 at 10:52 am
Shitface
Its all relative & is Indy.
A new world order is emerging & one that is absolutely scunnered with Colonialism.
BRICS for example believe in..
Upholding international law.
Upholding international treaties.
Not having a foreign policy imposed on them.
Not living under fear of invasion, sanction or being overthrown by the world police.
Trading with whom they like.
Trading in their own currency.
Investing in the future, not warring.
Setting up an alternative to SWIFT
Keeping their nose out of other countries affairs.
Keeping their nose out of other countries elections.
Uphold the rights of a people to self determination
Not buying the US new rules order pish.
Not starting wars & demanding their friends join in or else.
A fairer system & helping hand to poor & underdeveloped countries emerging from centuries of colonial bullshit & apartheid.
& Don’t try insult peoples intelligence. It IS geno-cide. They even defiantly admit it, ya plank. Now they want to extend into every neighbouring country because colonisers never know when to STOP. Everyone is a terrorist according to them & hiding under civilian hospitals & schools & racist planks like you lap it up cause you button up the back.
That’s yet another reason the UN will implode. The UN isn’t buying that pish any longer & various legal & Binding security council resolutions are just ignored. The US trying the Brit trick of “only in a small & meaningful way” doesn’t wash any longer & the courts, ICJ & ICC, issued death threats & even lifetime bans from the US if they fail to always favour US & I. Its brought about its own downfall. Everyone & their dug knows why they want to expand that region & they’ve turned into Nazis. Not surprising really because it’s an amalgamation of every fuckwit who’ve no right to be there. Europeans & Yanks picking up arms & dishing out punishments the moment they step off the plane.
They should’ve stuck with what they were given for free & STFU.
Here is something for those wondering why Glasgow University appears to be working against us and why Angus Robertson met with that ambassador. This organisation is active in editing Wikipedia to their liking.
“labelling those you disagree with as subhuman is a new low”
Not near as low as attempting to defend the murdering, slaughtering, disemboweling, mutilation and emaciation of children and pregnant women carried out by a terrorist, rogue, apartheid, murderous, and genocidal state which has become completely out of control and, yet, despite viciously killing civilians as it has been doing, is filled with such level of cowardice and deceitfulness that still attempts to full everyone by portraying itself as the victim.
“What they have been doing is absolutely sickening at every possible level. Subhuman even”
Those were my words, which I stand by. It seems Mr Ellis and Hatey McFace are taking turns in diving to the bottom of the sewer because Mr Ellis is now deliberately attempting to twist my words.
Mr Ellis if you got a PhD, I am sure you can at least read. It is the ACTION that I have called subhuman, not the individual. And I called it subhuman because it is not in the human nature to deliberately kill, mutilate, disembowel, and starve children, even toddlers and babies, to death and deprive them of drinking water. It is beyond sickening and goes against nature.
Mr Ellis and Hatey McFace, you seem awfully desperate to defend the terrorist, rogue, apartheid, murderous and genocidal state and falling over yourselves to justify its continuous violation of international law, its murdering, slaughter, emaciation and disemboweling of children and UN workers. Why is that? Are you also in its pocket?
28 September, 2024 at 10:25 pm
Mia
“And I called it subhuman because it is not in the human nature to deliberately kill, mutilate, disembowel, and starve children, even toddlers and babies, to death and deprive them of drinking water. It is beyond sickening and goes against nature.”
Well said.
There are even ex servicemen & high ranking generals absolutely sickened by what they are seeing & say they don’t know how they sleep at night. Those pilots dropping bombs on innocent civilians as they try run for cover.
There is no excuse, none. Only a sick, racist individual could even attempt to justify it. As Alf has often said, colonialism is rooted in racism. The Palestinians are the wrong colour so it’s okay.
Their crimes will catch up with them. There is no statute of limitations for war crimes & we already know the ‘I was only following orders’ line doesn’t work either.
They’ve no justification for mowing down unarmed civilians IN THEIR OWN TERRITORY & denying them of their basic human rights.
The ICJ is put on notice. Shape up or ship out. It doesn’t take over a year & countless footage, to uphold the law without fear or favour.
I is finished. It already a pariah state & it’s taken Its buddies down with it. Its only a matter of time before it eats itself. Its shown it can never exist in peace.
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