Betty Boop
6 days ago
Excellent, heartfelt and genuine tributes to Alex Salmond. Yes, Brian Wilson’s comments were pleasantly surprising and I find myself harbouring some respect for his honesty.
Grumpy Cofi
6 days ago
As a Welsh Nationalist living in Scotland.I can only wish that we had a politician of Mr Salmon’s standing and political skills in Wales. Thank you Rev. For the links to Brian Wilson and Kevin McKenna who both have expressed my own feelings so much better than I can.
I hope to live to see the day when Scotland and Wales become independent and operate within the British Isles in mutual respect and cooperation.
As to those who are not worthy to be named along side the titan that was Alex Salmond their day of reckoning will surely come in this world or the next.
Rest in peace
gordoz
6 days ago
And they say giants never existed.
Well Scotland is burying one today.
History will record this great man as a true guardian of Scotland while others await a wothy reckoning and undoubted infamy
RIP Alex Salmond – Hero
DanTDog
6 days ago
Oh, how I wished you could have been persuaded not to step down when you did. For certain, Scotland’s course would have been set in a more favourable direction R.I.P, sir…and thank you….
Terry
6 days ago
More people I know have left the snp. Ones I thought would never leave – the reason? Their disgust with the way the snp have treated Alex’s passing. Meantime his final tweet – Scotland is a country, not a county- was deemed political at the people’s parliament. And banned. You couldn’t make it up. The group were there to sign his book of condolences. While at the same time large electronic billboards boomed out LGBTQ propaganda facing the book of condolences. Even the herald covered it later on this article.
link to archive.is
“When will we see his like again?” RIP Alex. Your spirit will inspire us to carry on the fight.
SteepBrae
6 days ago
A sad day as we say farewell to this honest man o’ independent mind; much admired and never to be forgotten.
Grouser
6 days ago
The BBC Scotland Webpage carried an article on the couple who are challenging the Winter Fuel Payment decision in court. They were shown in earlier articles with Alex Salmond beside them. In the latest article Alex Salmond has been cut out of the picture. I have complained to the BBC (yawn) about this and asked why the decision was made to alter a well known photograph by cutting AS out especially as he is mentioned in the article. I wonder what sort of “We are right and you and wrong” response I’ll get.
Nae Need!
6 days ago
In the second P&J article Stu links to, an important distinction is recognised: the difference between a dreamer and a visionary. Alex was a visionary who got things done. Like others have said, I hope Strichen is blessed with a braw dry day, for it will be a raw day. But it’s good to know that the ceremony will be led by a long-standing, close and loyal ally of the family.
There’s wee part of me that still can’t quite wrap my head around the fact that Alex isn’t with us anymore. He always seemed indestructible to me, like a familiar mountain, a permanent and reliable feature of our landscape.
Billy
Reply to Republicofscotland
6 days ago
I myself am a unionist but Alex Salmond was the best politician in my long life-time. Scotland should not let Sturgeon et al away with putting this man, a legend, into an early grave.
Confused
6 days ago
Salmond’s death made me think of my dad dying, just over a year ago, of colon cancer. It’s not the same of course – I didn’t know Alex, never even met him – but I feel as much for him as is possible for what is in reality, a “stranger”.
Part of it is self interest – I always thought, with Alex around, it is possible my own life could get better through politics; there was hope. Hope is a necessity for existence, you need some thing, no matter how small, to pull you through the days, to ward off the negativity – we are all just rotting flesh on a one-way conveyor belt to a hole in the ground … but you need something to take your mind off this, ultimate reality (and you will die never knowing why, what it was all about, really, and whether you did the right thing or not, or if it meant something)
We know Alex was one of us, for us, one of the good guys, for the simple reason that with his obvious talents, had he “sold out”, say joined the Labour Party and stayed there, he would almost certainly have become the PM of this country – what is the opposition? Have you seen the empty coats and comedians who got the job? He would have been a wilsonian PM, with the same enemies; it’s a fascinating tale for one of those “parallel universe” stories. When he left politics he could have filled his pockets and been lauded by the media as an elder statesman. Instead, he avoided this easy life, to be out there, streetfighting on our behalf, despite his advanced years.
All I can see in the political arena are sellouts – sellouts to the establishment, to money, to corporate lobbies, foreign powers, the spooks – anyone who is not the people. The political selection process is now so controlled, so mechanised, that anyone who is not a “clone” has no chance of getting anywhere near any important position; you can see them on the TV right now, doing the same shit, making the same talking points. Useless, all. And while there might be “good guys” out there – voices crying in the wilderness – they either lack the “mad skillz” needed to succeed in this bear pit, or would be quickly “repurposed” once the system got a hold of them – some of them may be idealists, but once invited to the porch of some body with real power, it is intoxicating; “this is the way the world works” (- remember Nikki’s talk to the CFR? – the poor girl thought she made the bigtime)
The SNP were a fringe interest, pretty much, until he arrived (not to denigrate the work of all those people previous, but it had fallen short) – its success since then has been unimaginable. The sick irony of the troughers, the grifters, is that they owe their knife and fork jobs to the Salmond years of growth and success.
Leaders are a necessity, but also a single point of failure; they can be got at, bribed, threatened, murdered, it is commonplace. I was trying to solve this problem; ideas from “leaderless resistance” and distributed systems. I was thinking about football teams, a collective enterprise, the work of many, but at the same time you DO need a striker, to lead the line and get the goals, and the difference between one who gets 10 goals a season, or 20 goals, or even 30 goals a season, is enormous. Top strikers are so expensive because they are rare, even among professional footballers. The indy movement does not have many “top strikers”. And we just lost our biggest.
Everyone dies sometime and of something; 69 is at least 10 years early, but not outrageously so. Heart attacks account for about 1/3 of us. Natural causes, probably, maybe. Single events admit no theory, but looked at in the large, in the broad sweep of politics, there is a pattern and the tell is always – “timing”. When things happen “just so”, I always think – what are the odds of that then?
– there is a lot boiling up in our politics right now; investigations, court cases – one gets the feeling the dam is about to burst and when people can see all the evidence and know the names of the principals, it is obvious what really happened and once that happens, the SNP, or at least the people now running it, are going to be sunk – torches and pitchforks time.
The importance to the establishment of having a faux-nationalist party to “queer the pitch” instead of an actual nationalist party, does not need explained to wingers. We are talking trillions of assets, already spent/accounted for and used as collateral to keep the rotten ship of Britain floating.
100%Yes
6 days ago
RiP former FM, but the job isn’t finished and I don’t want to be the next one being laid to rest just because we are sitting on our arses. The political and legal process isn’t working other than for the Unionist and Redcoats. Kemi Badenoch was laughing when asked if Scotland was in a voluntary union and asked what was the process in which Scotland could leave and true answering being NONE. SNP aren’t ever going to defy their masters they aren’t even bothered about Scotland or its people anymore and if you believe they are my reply to you is don’t be dumb, blind and stupid. There is nothing we’ll ever be able to achieve with the SNPBAD in charge but we actually don’t need the SNP we are going to need to mass protest not at our masters south of the border its the Redcoats in Holyrood this is where democracy is being denied because its also where democracy can be won. I have no idea who many times I contacted AUOB telling them not to march on the streets but to march against Nicola Sturgeon government. There isn’t 1 who can see past the benefits paid in their bank accounts of the Union to do the right thing for Scotland or our people and to be honest I was and still am Angry with Salmond on how he held the referendum in 2014 by allowing 1.5million people who oppressed Independence even before we went to the polls this was a HUGE mistake and has brought us to where we are today.
Geoff Anderson
6 days ago
I hope a positive emerges in that the Movement unites and drives forward. That is what he would have wanted. That should be his legacy.
On a personal level I hope the evil Nicophants who tried to destroy him pay a heavy price
In the ninth circle of hell, those who committed betrayal are punished most severely in a frozen lake named Cocytus guarded by Satan.
Graeme
6 days ago
Perhaps Iain Macwhirter:
“Alex Salmond took the SNP from electoral irrelevance to the governance of Scotland. He was the most astute, gifted, and energetic politician of his generation. It may be a cliché to say that we’ll never see his like again – but that doesn’t make it any less true.”
Alistair
5 days ago
It’s interesting that the strong theme from people who were his political opponents is anger at the the unjustness of his treatment. I like that!
I like that, for some people, fairness and justice transcends bitter political disagreements.
I’d rather live in a country with people who disagree with me but share a sense of common decency, than be with a nest of people who nominally agree with me but have no decency.
For all the enmity between Unionists and Nationalists – it’s at moments like these that you see who the good people are.
Republicofscotland
Reply to Hatey McHateface
5 days ago
“Craig Murray was sentenced to eight months by presiding judge Lady Dorrian, despite having taken great care to neither name accusers nor make jigsaw identification possible while still offering a factual account of the proceedings. “
The Case Against Craig Murray – Defending Free Journalism
“The recommendation to consider a time limited pilot of juryless trials came from the Lady Dorrian Review into Improving the Management of Sexual Offence Cases.”
Juryless trials: FOI release – gov.scot
twathater
Reply to Anthem
4 days ago
Despite many pleas for Stuart to reveal his opinion on SALVO and Liberation.scot he remains silent, which I presume speaks volumes, he has shown us through his numerous investigations and honest articles that the political route to independence is dead in the water for at least a decade , with that in mind and his refusal to even contemplate standing for office what are his ideas to gain independence, I have never seen any article of his mention Scots sovereignty
Dan
Reply to sarah
4 days ago
The “upgrade” has made it an absolute pain in the arse to find past posts as advanced search results produce loads of results and links with the dates completely out of whack with when comments were posted. May be due to lack of time date stamp on posts in new system, also bookmarking posts can’t be right clicked and bookmarked.
“Upgrade” is great for groundhog day goldfish but utter pish as a tool for reference. But that’s what you get with ADHD Facebook / Twitter like platforms, where as oldskool forums were much better as tools because they had specific sections with stickies, FAQs, etc.
Farcical amount of effort to try to follow comment trails now.
I did find the thread though.
Stu’s post where he states Salvo are “they’re prone to spouting some wacko conspiracy shit”.
My bump after several others asked for a further response.
Michael Laing
Reply to Christopher Quinn
5 days ago
I never seem to encounter anybody either on-line or in real life (apart from obvious trouble-makers like Faceache there) who doesn’t believe Scotland should be independent. I didn’t believe that ‘No’ really won the 2014 referendum at the time, and I’m even more sceptical about the result now.
Fearghas MacFhionnlaigh
5 days ago
ROP TÚ MO BAILE (Anon. c 1000 AD)
(Common Gaelic original of hymn Be Thou my Vision, retranslated by Fearghas MacFhionnlaigh. Some verses selected for Alex today.)
1.
Rop tú mo baile,
a Choimdiu cride;
ní ní nech aile
acht Rí secht nime.
Fill my horizon,
Lord of love.
Still my eyes
On the King above.
2.
Rop tú mo scrútain
i lló ’s i n-aidche;
rop tú ad-chear
im chotlud caidche.
Be my thought
By day and night.
When eyelids shut,
Yet stay in sight.
5.
Rop tú mo chathscíath,
rop tú mo chlaideb;
rop tussu m’ordan,
rop tussu m’airer.
Be my battleshield.
Be my sword.
Be my dignity.
Be my reward.
6.
Rop tú mo dítiu,
rop tú mo daingen;
rop tú nom-thocba
i n-áentaid n-aingel.
Be my safehouse,
My basecamp strong.
Be my air-lift
With angel throng!
7.
Rop tú cech maithius
dom churp, dom anmain;
rop tú mo fhlaithius
i nnim ’s i talmain.
My body’s balm,
My spirit’s health,
Be my regime
In heaven and earth.
8.
Rop tussu t’áenur
sainserc mo chride;
ní rop nech aile
acht Airdrí nime.
Unto You alone
My heart shall cling.
None can dethrone
Heaven’s High King.
14.
Go Rí na n-uile
rís íar mbúaid léire;
ro béo i flaith nime
i ngile gréine.
With the King of All,
Tour of duty done,
Under heaven’s rule,
Under dazzling sun.
Rob
5 days ago
My OH half said what I thought, despite our politics not being Nationalist any longer and not voting SNP for many years she said as far as she was concerned Alex Salmond WAS the SNP, obviously not the current shower and I knew what she meant.
The last decent politician to come out of Scotland since John Smith and struggling to see another around these days
Tinto Chiel
Reply to Geri
4 days ago
Yes, Geri, Monklands East/Motherwell North etc had a considerable reputation for Scottish Labour corruption and nepotism and people like Smith, Helen Liddell (formerly Robert Maxwell’s bag-carrier) and Dr John Reid got to the top of the British Establishment tree while the area was a byword for poverty and lack of opportunity.
It was astonishing that John Smith was buried with some of the earliest Scottish kings on Iona after doing virtually nothing for the land of his birth.
His family, of course, are in with the bricks of the British Establishment in academe, the media and Scots Law. It pays to toe the Londinium line.
Meanwhile Alex Salmond returned to Scotland to dispespect and further shameless smears on his character from the usual Britnat hyenas.
BLMac
5 days ago
A brilliant man of shining talent who made just one mistake.
He should have never allowed foreigners to have a say in Scotland’s sovereignty.
Can you imagine the French, the Germans, Americans, or any other nation allowing that?
Without the No vote of the EU citizens and English Scotland would be free.
I regard him as our modern Wallace, betrayed by his own. Now we need our Bruce.
Alf Baird
Reply to BLMac
4 days ago
Spot on.
‘Yes’ would have walked the 2014 referendum with a properly organised UN-sanctioned ‘national franchise’ instead of an irregular Holyrood local government franchise based on residence, which ignored national identity. Self-determination is about the independence and hence decolonization of a distinct ‘people’ in which national identity / national consciousness is the most fundamental issue.
The 56 so-called ‘roaring lions’ elected in 2015 was another missed opportunity to end the UK colonial hoax; the first time in over 300 years that a majority of nationalists were elected in Scotland and they aw still took the oath tae the wrang croun!
As somebody once said: “WE’VE lost a battle, but we will win the war”.
link to heraldscotland.com
gregor
Reply to BLMac
4 days ago
La Marche des Soldats: King Robert Bruce:
“The song “The March of the Soldiers” of Robert Bruce, King of Scotland was composed on the occasion of the defeat of the English at the Battle of Bannockburn in 1314. Afterwards, Bruce renewed Scotland’s alliance with France.
In 1429, when Orléans was taken (Hundred Years’ War turning point), the Scottish warriors who fought under the leadership of Saint Joan of Arc sounded this beautiful and historic march again.”
gregor
Reply to gregor
3 days ago
Auld Alliance News…
BBC: Rare William Wallace letter to go on show:
“The letter, sent to the French king’s agents in the court of Pope Boniface VIII in Rome in November 1300, was discovered in the Tower of London in the 1830s.
It commanded them to recommend the Scottish knight to the Pope…
Wallace, one of Scotland’s best-known historical figures, led the Scots to victory against an English army of King Edward I at the Battle of Stirling Bridge in September 1297, as part of a struggle for independence.
He is said to have travelled to France in 1299, following his resignation as Guardian of Scotland in favour of Robert the Bruce the year before…”:
machrihanish lad
5 days ago
Odd, but enormously appreciated that Brian Wilson articulated and published so concisely what ideally, after a due period of respect, should be demanded.
It is we the people that need to stop this continuing SNP “misfeasance in public office”. Do they not understand that this ongoing cover up is ALSO and SEPERATELY further “misfeasance in public office”.
The bald scalp of Honest John may well be on the chopping block – but that’s 100% because of his own personal political choices, decisions and actions of the last 10 years in office.
He and others may well escape the charge of direct “misfeasance in public office” but it is extremely unlikely that he, and those others, will escape charges of ‘nonfeasance’ or more precisely in Scots Law charges around ‘delictual liability’. The criminal consequences that arise because a person negligently, or indeed intentionally or recklessly, caused loss to another by ignoring their duty to act. The term nonfeasance spells out in a more crystal-clear way ‘delictual liability’.
The obvious legacy to Alex Salmond surely must be:
(and thank you, Brian Wilson for publishing 1)
1. ‘would it not be better if the eulogisers of the past week were to render that (nauseating nonfeasance* or further misfeasance in public office) unnecessary by releasing unredacted every piece of paperwork which could help answer the myriad questions which remain outstanding’.
2. The SNP accept as a Government, immediately and unreservedly begin the process of releasing unredacted every piece of paperwork and also:
3. The SNP accept as a Government, immediately and unreservedly accept that a fully transparent and internationally monitored court like retrospective justice process system is implimented – a Truth & Reconciliation Commission of Scotland needs to is put in place – to deal with not just the pandemic od SNP Government misfeasance in public office – but also the costs and retrospective catalogue of 15 plus years of COPFS era malicious prosecutions.
Ask ourselfs, would not a court like retrospective of justice; a Truth & Reconciliation Commission of Scotland be one fitting legacy to Alex Salmond – a man who throughtout his life was standing for Justice?
Alf Baird
Reply to machrihanish lad
4 days ago
“a Truth & Reconciliation Commission” investigating a colonial administration?
Oppressed peoples usually have to wait until after independence/decolonization and national liberation for such events to take place; this is for rather obvious reasons, not least because during the period of colonization elites function in the colonizer’s interest. As noted here:
“There are good reasons for mounting truth sessions: they reintroduce betrayers and flaky placemen – known as colonial watchdogs – into society’s spotlight ensuring the worst are neutralised from repeating their behaviour in a liberated Scotland, and it stops the unscrupulous blackmailing them.”
link to grousebeater.wordpress.com
Vivian O’Blivion
Reply to machrihanish lad
4 days ago
From the BBC News website: “And he [John Swinney] said the employee – who was a career civil servant in a junior role, rather than a political appointee like a special advisor – was of ”impeccable record and repute”, and that it would be inappropriate to question her integrity.”
Something doesn’t add up. If Swinney is telling the truth, why was a “junior” civil servant briefing Ministers? It’s true that during the operational period of the Hamilton enquiry, *** ***** wasn’t a “special advisor”, but then again, she was in a role that is generally considered to be that of a “political appointee”.
Is [Redacted] not who we all assume her to be?
Fergus Ewing apparently knows from leaks, the identity of she who’s name must remain anonymous at all costs. Joanna Cherry likely knows the same details through the scuttlebutt in senior legal circles.
Why doesn’t someone just stand up in Holyrood and call out *** ***** as the Redacted individual? It wouldn’t impinge on any outstanding order of Court.
Is this going to require another intervention from David Davis using Parliamentary privilege?
Republicofscotland
Reply to Vivian O’Blivion
4 days ago
“Why doesn’t someone just stand up in Holyrood and call out *** ***** as the Redacted individual?”
Because no one wants to rock the boat – they all have cushy well paid jobs – they see the status quo as route to a long and fruitful career – and that’s just the supposedly independence parties.
The other parties the branch offices of their London HQ’s care even less about rocking the boat – and they would do just about anything to keep Scotland down, and locked in this illegal union.
Why ordinary Scots put up with these London branch offices parties at Holyrood I’ll never know.
Westminster must be laughing their arses-off at us.
“Daniel Defoe (c.1660-1731): “The Scots will be allowed to send to Westminster a handful of men who will make no weight whatever. They will be allowed to sit there for form’s sake to be laughed at.””
twathater
Reply to machrihanish lad
4 days ago
I admired Alex Salmond for his dedication to the people of Scotland and his unwavering quest to free our country from our oppressors and colonisers
BUT, IMO his weakness was he was too trusting and forgiving of the infestation of cockroaches that surrounded him , IF Alex Salmond had been such a bully and aggressive dictator not one of these cockroaches would have dared to concoct the lies and smears that they did
EVEN after he was cleared of all the fake charges and had proven that the SG were corrupt and rancid to the core he STILL extended the hand of conciliation to the venomous poisoned dwarf, who continued with her cohort of lying deviants and perverts to smear ,lie and denigrate a man who had mentored her and enabled her to achieve the office of fm, an office which far exceeded her abilities and integrity, an office and position that was too superior for a FAILED lawyer
I watched 10 minutes of the bbc parade of vicious spittle flecked poisonous scum carrying on with their unrelenting determined aim to besmirch and debase a man who in death cannot respond to their scurrilous lies denigration and misinformation
That anyone would wish a truth and reconciliation event with these inhuman amoral amoebae only illustrates to them that they have nothing to fear from reprisals, I personally would **** the bastards, so count me out
Michael Laing
Reply to twathater
4 days ago
I believe Alex Salmond offered reconciliation with those who tried to destroy him, not because he was soft or trying to be nice, but because he strongly believed in doing the right and honourable thing and wanted to be seen to be doing it, and because he knew that in refusing to accept his olive branch, his enemies would reveal themselves to be the anti-independence collaborators that they truly are.
twathater
Reply to Michael Laing
4 days ago
Unfortunately these cockroaches have no conscience, no dignity or integrity, they are fecal matter who will take any advantage or weakness and run with it , they are NOT deserving of a second chance
Alex wanting to be fair and inclusive cost US our independence, I don’t give a flying fuck about fairness or inclusion , I want independence first and foremost and if people don’t wise up with their civic pish and progressiveness WE will never see our country and people FREE
LOOK at the civic and progressive shite threatening our womenfolk and children, perverts and deviants are relishing this stupidity
Republicofscotland
4 days ago
FFS the English propaganda BBC channel in Scotland (BBC Scotland) – its 7pm programme on the Chief Alex Salmond, the b*stards – just can’t help themselves as they character assassinate the man – even in death these c*nts can’t stop demeaning our national hero.
That utter pr*ck Farquharson turned my stomach with regards to lying his on the Alphabet Women – as did Mi5 outlet the Guardian “journalist” Libby Brooks.
Not to mention that little treacherous rotund shite Blackford, who always has an expression on his mug as though he’s sniggering.
Confused
4 days ago
I think that BBC shite needs a swift boot in the bollocks; feel free to pile on … time to remember and not forget, and not let our enemies rewrite history for us all.
I spent Sunday re-reading all the material I could find on the trial. NB people should make their own copies as it has a tendency to disappear. I wanted to condense a big picture post about “what really happened”, but it would have set a record for a comment on wings, being about twice the length of a good article. People should refresh their minds with Murray, Dangerfield and a few others.
“brutus and the conspirators … what of the honourable men … ”
While Alex was exonerated in court (despite a rigged process), he never fully was in the public mind, his opponents maintained this “smell” about him, he was “toxic” and so on. Because of this I think there is still an unpaid bill, outstanding. And we should be the debt collectors (Ken Loach style). Boiling it all down to its essence – and note this is mainly concerned with structure rather than detail (because you aren’t allowed to talk “detail”)
– Sturgeon, Evans and Lloyd cook up a plan (motives unknown, but we can guess) to take down Salmond, run him out of politics. In this model, Sturgeon is an “asset” and Evans is her “handler”. Evans is of a type, she reminds me of Daphne Park.
– to keep their hands clean they hire 2 “assassins”, outsiders; Allison and MacKinnon, the latter to be the point-wimmin who spent her entire career as being a professional feminist – her job is such a joke, really, like a “mafia no show”, but her real job was to bury Alex
– Lloyd runs around twisting arms
– they are worried so get legal advice; they don’t like it, yet go ahead; later on they try to cover it up
– they get 9 complainants; 6 very close to Sturgeons inner circle, 3 senior civil servants. There is a general sense of reluctance, but whatever persuasion went on it promised anonymity and no comebacks.
– the cops and the lawyers seem to be on board for all this. “separation of powers” is meant to exist to avoid this kind of 3rd world banana republic political operation.
– most of the charges, 14, one dropped, are ridiculous, but there are a couple of serious ones, attempted r4pe. This would be serious jailtime.
– the trial goes ahead and is not much reported (in detail) by the media, except for Murray. The public are excluded from the “best stuff”. Some of it is hilarious – the attempted molestation in the back of a limo, with the armrest down, in front of the womans husband and driver – stealth r4pe-ninja, hypnotist and contortionist … what a man … I almost want it to be true
– the jury, mostly women, exonerates Alex; women, it must be said, are exquisite detectors of other womens lies
– the media are outside, about to enter feeding frenzy, and are shocked. Once the shock is over, they just carry on, like he was guilty anyway. Garavelli was the worst of them, mainly because she is taken more seriously, e.g. she had a piece in the London Review of Books, which is pretty high-brow. There is this persistent backdrop from the media, an unstated assumption that for some reason “the jury got it wrong” but “we all know the truth, eh?”, no smoke without fire
– enquiries follow, toothless; again Salmond is hampered in what he can say in his defence, but is otherwise, lucid. Sturgeon gives a masterclass in verbal obfuscation coming across as a “scatterbrain”, who can hardly keep a diary and does not know whether she is coming or going – this is in stark contrast to the absolute control freak she is known to be, has to know everything, has to approve of all actions, tolerates no freethinkers, or wandering off the reservation
There are important lies that must be maintained for the official story to have any credibility
– Sturgeon knew nothing about any of this until March
– the women were all independent complainants, did not know each other and did not collude (whatsapp messages will prove they did; and this makes a mockery of the Moorov doctrine)
– just out of nowhere, for no real pressing reason, this new complaints process is cooked up and to be applied retrospectively. We are expected to believe this was just a random event, despite it never having been used against anyone other than Alex; also, something about internal party rules incredibly gets elevated to criminal charges
the intensity of the police operation to investigate (fit up) Alex must be contrasted with their feet dragging on the multiple investigations against the Murrells; the police being used as a political private army would, in a normal country, get short shrift; but this was political and it stinks of higher level organisation.
this anonymity order is extremely nasty and subtle; it shuts down debate. The other side can now lie without being challenged, for you cannot bring any factual detail into any rebuttal. The constraints of who worked for who and when, and went here and there on a certain day, are powerful and could allow the public to “jigsaw identify” the complainants, so you have to remain quiet. You also know it will only be applied selectively – journos “on the other side” have already broken these rules.
One complainant is pretty easy to identify, her relationship, likely motive and subsequent actions – she is pretty much the linchpin of it all, but she will never be held to account; I hope the guilt eats her up inside.
Scotland, a land where perjurers are allowed anonymity.
– but only if it is in the interests of the powerful.
Alex physical body has expired, but we can still resurrect his good name.
Geri
Reply to Glenn Boyd
4 days ago
#BBCSwitchOff
Stop paying yer license fee & stop giving them viewing figures. You’ll feel much better for it. They’ll curl up & die off when they’re no longer being paid to guest appear on the British Bullshit channel.
They’re scum. They’ll never say anything nice about Scotland, independence or any elected officials & especially venomous to anything relating to Alex Salmond. You can guarantee it & any debate shows have an audience of plants & plastic Scots with pre-approved dumb questions. Its a joke channel with joker presenters who wouldn’t know journalism or impartiality if it bit them on the arse. They’ve a fcking nerve to take the piss out of R today. The BBC is a government mouth piece & STV isnt far behind it.
Scotland should have its own broadcasting rights. Something you’d have thought sleekit Sturgeon would’ve demanded after the farce of 2014.
Liz
Reply to Confused
4 days ago
I watched some of BBC prog on Alex, the man who changed Scotland and gave up.
Alex can’t get a level playing field even in death
The usual vicious liars were on, people who actually hate him and the airheads..someone mentioning Alex working for RT despite the “Salisbury poisonings”!!!
No one can compete with such stupidity.
The bit that made my blood run cold, was the portrait artist, who said he thought Alex post trial, was very reckless with his health.
He said, I’m paraphrasing, we couldn’t comprehend how he must feel after that travesty of a trial.
That made me realise those evil lying bitches plus corrupt media, did shorten his life.
His name must be cleared
He never deserved what happened
Garavelli Princip
Reply to Confused
4 days ago
“One complainant is pretty easy to identify, her relationship, likely motive and subsequent actions – she is pretty much the linchpin of it all, but she will never be held to account; I hope the guilt eats her up inside.”
Sadly, psychopaths – particularly those in the employ of the Brit State – know no guilt. That is why they are so useful to the Regime!
Alf Baird
Reply to machrihanish lad
4 days ago
Any notion of ‘justice’ in a colonial (i.e. Manichean) environment requires careful consideration. It is generally the case that “the native seldom seeks for justice in the colonial framework” (Memmi).
A little understanding of the decolonization (i.e. independence) process may also be helpful, including the roles and behaviour of key actors:
link to yoursforscotlandcom.wordpress.com
Dan
Reply to Robert Matthews
3 days ago
Colony – A country or area under the full or partial political control of another country and occupied by folk from that country.
There’s barely any attempt to hide the reality. England doesn’t even have its own devolved parliament, instead treating the UK Parliament as its own, and the Kingdom of England holding continual control of Westminster by having a ten to one democratic advantage over Kingdom of Scotland.
London Rule doesn’t even have a qualified majority voting mechanism to ensure the two Kingdoms that make up the UK have their democratically expressed views and needs respected and upheld.
Republicofscotland
2 days ago
So the Tory branch manager in Scotland – Russell Findlay thinks in his deluded and warped mind – that Scots – would be happy to see the end of free prescriptions.
There’s no such party known as the Scottish Tory party registered with the Electoral Commission – it an offshoot of the English Tory party that sits in Holyrood, part of its remit, is to keep Scotland in its box – and most Scots don’t even realise it.
Alf Baird
Reply to Dan
1 day ago
It might help if Robin and other Scottish intellectuals would ditch conventional political theory and instead embrace postcolonial theory; only then might they begin to understand Scotland’s colonial ‘condition’, and the specific meaning and purpose of national independence, which is about decolonization and liberation of a doun-hauden people.
Dan
Reply to Zander Tait
2 days ago
I recall Craig Murray stating that there might be other factors interacting with Operation Branchform.
Not sure if it relates to this.
GUPTA / GFG Alliance / SIMEC
Gupta / GFG Alliance and SIMEC’s proposed windfarm near Ben Nevis got knocked back in 2022 by Scottish “Government” ministers.
Wonder if promises were previously made in deals with powerful people, and when elements of any deals weren’t able to come to fruition someone got pissed off. That’s what happens in high stakes / value games.
Zander Tait
1 day ago
I see Carlos Alba, the well known Salmondrist, is reporting another alleged sexual assault by AS is being investigated by the police, courtesy of the Herald.
The alleged crime is non recent.
The C word is too kind for these vermin.
Zander Tait
Reply to Zander Tait
1 day ago
Well we’ll. This story broke 11 hours ago and was published in the Herald and the Daily Record at the same time. Both articles are identical and they were both written by Carlos Alba.
It descends into yet another character assassination of Alex Salmond.
Methinks Nikita Stalin has been busy after the demise of AS.
Andouilette
Reply to And Spouse
1 day ago
Yes, amongst other things. I, a half Scottish, half English unionist said to my husband when Mr. Salmond died “Just you wait, a load more trumped up accusations will emerge shortly because he’s dead and cannot defend himself”. I wish I had been wrong. This is utterly sick-making and reprehensible. Let the poor man rest in peace and stop making things even worse for his family and friends. If I could see it, I hope others like me can see it too. Are there no depths to which NS and her merry band of sycophants and liars will not stoop?
Stuart MacKay
1 day ago
Off-topic: I’ve finished archiving Iain Lawson’s, Yours for Scotland blog. All 1087 posts, though 6 were later deleted (but two still exist on archive.ph).
I started out using archive.ph and archiving one page at a time, but pretty much gave up on that because it was going to take forever. Luckily I came across, link to archivebox.io, which allows you to give it a list of links to archive and off it goes, (I archived the entire site in a couple of days). You need to know how to run python programs to use it. It has it’s quirks but does a decent job.
All the posts now have a single page HTML file and a pdf. I wasn’t able to upload the results to archive.org as it got hacked recently and is currently not accepting uploads, last time I looked. I’ll get these saved when it comes online again.
The archive does not include any video, so no episodes of A Scottish Prism. It was simply taking too much disk space – hundreds of GB. The main problem though is filtering out links to videos posted in comments, which while interesting are probably not significant, except to “everything is in context” people. This might come up as a problem when archiving Wings for example.
Right now, I don’t have any plans to make the files available, other than to upload the files to archive.org. That will likely change if Iain’s site gets taken down.
Once I get this project wrapped up I’ll probably look at other sites. Any suggestions will be gratefully received.
I’m off to re-read all the “Letter from Denmark” posts. Probably the finest body of uplifting, pro-independence material there is.
Jeannie McCrimmon
1 day ago
How must his family feel with the continued smearing of
Alex Salmond when it’s shredding my heart?
duncanio
Reply to Jeannie McCrimmon
1 day ago
In my view this has happened because the crooks and criminals are in total panic mode.
They don’t wish for Salmond to become a martyr for The Cause. And in their actions they will guarantee that will happen.
I take this as a sign that this is in reaction to hints dropped by family and friends that Salmond’s case – with it overwhelming evidence of extremely foul play against him – will be continued.
I sincerely hope so.
Al Harron
Reply to duncanio
1 day ago
There’s a mantra that these people are protected, that they’ll get away with it, that nothing will happen because the forces against us are too powerful. Yet they failed to jail an innocent man; they failed to cover it up; they are failing to resist the tide of inquiry into their criminal actions.
They will fail in the end, because they have failed before.
fiona
1 day ago
i feel your anger, I saw the Herald headlines last night and could scarcely believe what I was reading. this is a witch hunt on a man who can’t defend himself now, on his widow, (who quite frankly is a tower of strength given the relentless barrage of tripe which has been flung at Alex over the years,) his family having to read this in the same week of Alex’s funeral must be so upset?Thank you for your words which go some way to expressing what so many if us will be feeling/ thinking today. These slugs who have penned this rubbish truly are ” the filth of Scotland.”
Dave Llewellyn
1 day ago
Joanna Cherry said that in her whole career prosecuting sex cases she never saw a Moorov fail that had three witnesses. Then along comes this one with 9 and it fails . That should tell you something
Scott
1 day ago
Couldn’t this massively backfire as it will invigorate those already seeking and motivate more people to seek justice for Alex?
Pretty much kills some people’s hope that due to his passing we’d eventually just move on from the whole affair.
Al Harron
Reply to Scott
1 day ago
As Tolkien observed in The Lord of the Rings, it is because evil cannot comprehend good. They cannot understand that when a fire of justice has been lit under people, there is nothing on this planet that would douse the flame. They don’t realise how much folk are willing to sacrifice to see justice done, because they could never imagine sacrificing anything for a cause they cared about.
Astonished
Reply to Al Harron
23 hours ago
Spot on, Mr Harron.
It is dawning on the ‘scum of the earth’ that they are going to be found out. Their lies will be exposed.
There is nowhere for them to hide. I expect that when folk find out what they did, they’ll be so angry that the lord advocate will have no further choice in the matter. She will have to prosecute them.
Can’t wait.
P.S. If Mrs Salmond wants to crowdfund their legal action I would be more than happy to donate. As, I am sure, would be many, many others.
Nae Need!
Reply to Andouilette
1 day ago
Others like you CAN see it. I follow a few ‘unionist’ accounts on Twitter because they’re good accounts. I just disagree with them on the issue of regaining our sovereignty, but agree with them on SO much else . . . but anyway, when the news of Alex’ passing hit, those ‘unionist’ threads contained many posts that were genuine sentiments of grief, shock, and also voiced enormous respect to the man himself.
Alex’ politics cut across all party allegiances and he made friends, it seems, everywhere he went and in the most unlikely of places. That’s an amazing talent in itself (and as we all know, a negligible talent in the current cohort).
I feel that this issue adds another dimension to ‘their’ fear: that independence supporters AND folk who aren’t, have NOW found common ground in Scotland’s loss and will join forces to expose the truth.
SteepBrae
Reply to Nae Need!
1 day ago
Alex’s great strength was his humanity. People warm to that because we share a common humanity no matter what our beliefs or politics.
You’d see it, say, on Question Time where a sceptical audience would end up hanging on his every word and genuinely applauding him for his understanding of the issues and, crucially, his competence in knowing what to do about them. He cared.
People recognise truthfulness and humanity. Thankfully.
Duntulm
1 day ago
Ironically, as long as Salmond was alive he was the protective shield for Sturgeon and the Betties. As we witnessed with the softball questioning of NS at the Holyrood inquiry, the unionist side, much as they would have relished exposing each of her lies, also knew that whenever they did, they would be awarding a point to Alex, the very last thing they wanted.
So now he’s sadly gone it’s an encouraging sign of the plotters’ panic, knowing the unionists no longer have any reason to protect them, they’re so desperate to keep the narrative going they’ve been forced to employ the services of a low grade bedsit scribbler as their best advocate. Some of the leading figures may have departed but blowing apart the conspiracy and the cover-up would take a few down including Swinney and destroy any prospect of an SNP win in ’26. That must be quite a temptation for Sarwar and his hopes of becoming FM, as well as some bonus for Starmer, He could serve two terms, should an increasingly right wing English electorate allow, and exploit Scotland’s resources to the max and all without coming under any serious threat from the independence side.
And any early exit of Swinney would cause chaos. Flynn would hotfoot it to Holyrood and prove himself even more visibly out of his depth than at Westminster, or they would turn to Forbes, splitting the party and causing a major flounce by the delightful gender-obsessed faction that amusingly describes itself as ‘progressive’.
sarah
1 day ago
Shocking. These editors are proven both incompetent [no case can be brought against a deceased person] AND cruel. How can they inflict this on the family? I am so sorry for family, friends, and our cause.
We must renew the fight to leave the Union, establish Scotland’s principles of all power being under the people’s control and for the Common Good, and then get these “journalists” bound by laws of truth and decency.
In my district and region people are starting fresh campaigns to fire up the independence supporters. I pray that the best of the independence brains working for the cause [nudge, Rev] are getting in touch to make the most of their special skills.
For example, Rev, you like some of the Salvo arguments but think they have some [“batshit” I think you said] elements that diminish Salvo/Liberation’s effectiveness. I ask you to contact e.g. Sara Salyers and talk to her about how to improve their work. I am certain that she would welcome your assistance.
We cannot afford to waste any more time.
Tartanpigsy
1 day ago
Posted this on the last thread, we need to do something!
These ghouls are beyond evil !!!
Any news on a public remembrance for our greatest son?
And I don’t mean a few folk at the shitey Dewar Statue on Buchanan Street.
I mean something befitting of our greatest, and I do mean GREATEST son.
Seems like us Scots are letting the colonial masters dictate what happens, hope I’m wrong
We could crowdfund a fitting tribute ?!?!?!
I’ve got 3k Yes flags plus around 1000 Yes Car Flags in need of an occasion
We have musicians, we have the people
Let’s give Alex a send off FFS
I understand Alfs comment that the establishment won’t want anything being made of Salmond’s passing hence the latest abominable pile on
‘Keep sullying the character, it will become the truth’
But it isn’t the truth
Geri
Reply to Campbell Clansman
22 hours ago
Seeing as yer not the sharpest tool the box let me help you from making an arse of yerself further..
Scotland has already elected THREE majorities to Westminster with the clear instruction to EXIT the union. (2015/2017/2019)
Scotland also elected TWO pro majorities to Holyrood to EXIT the Union. (2016/2021)
Scotland also voted to REMAIN in the EU. (2016)
I’ll not even add council elections.
So, numerous mandates to act…
*Tumbleweed*
Yet we’re still in the fucking union eh? What does that tell you? That the domestic route is a complete waste of everyone’s time.
NOT because of WMs wishy-washy pish about *permission* but because they’d an obvious plant in place who had absolutely no intention of ever fulfilling her mandates. Not a single one of them. She was just taking the piss.
Her one & only achievement was to sicken an entire fucking nation against voting at all. What was the point of another mandate to add to the others she already had?
Alex Salmond was coming back to politics, (2018) probably cause he seen what a mess she was making of everything & he definitely knew the crowd at Westminster knew fck all about Westminster procedures & rules (As evidenced when he’d to step in repeatedly to help Whiny Blackford out) & the rest is history. The knives were out & plans put in place to make sure that didn’t happen.
The bottom line is that repeated efforts to unite parties just wasn’t going to sell to the public. The SNP had gone wackadoo woke to divide & conquer so ppl just didn’t bother voting.
Salvo/Liberation isn’t a political party. Scottish devolution started the exact same way. Various pressure groups converging outside of political party politics until the time was right to launch a campaign for a parliament.
On the bright side, it seems to annoy the fuck out of you trolls so that lets us all know they’re on the right track.
Alex should’ve kick started a convention & left the notions of taking a seat at Westminster. The public are completely turned off & who can blame them when numerous mandates have been completely ignored…
Katielass
Reply to Aidan
2 hours ago
We don’t need to provide a single, solitary thing to you.or bring you ‘evidence’. You’re a no one. And your opinion on SALVO/liberation & their work, means nothing to us. It’s the UN that needs the evidence, which liberation has.And THAT is why a European Constitutional Lawyer has taken the case on. He wouldn’t bother, otherwise. Who wants to look a fool on the Int’l stage? He’s taken it and the evidence, believes it is enough to win the case – and we’ll see what happens.
YOU are here because you & you union pals need to push their beaks in to whatever plans or events might be about encouraging Scots to think about & support Independence. If you weren’t worried, you’d be too bored with this subject to bother writing anything. WE SEE YOU. Fact is – we know who you are – and we OWE YOU DIDDLY. You might as well play nice – or sit down & be quiet.
Robert Hughes
1 day ago
( posted this on the previous thread ; it’s more relevant on this one )
Not content with hastening his death , the Scottish Wing of the Cuntocracy are now proceeding to piss on his grave with ” new ” ” non-recent ” allegations of sexual misconduct by Alex Salmond . What , has it came to light that Alex once walked past one of these would-be accusers in a provocative manner ; did he perhaps smile in a lascivious way ; surely he didn’t , again , pick a hair from a defenseless female’s jacket ?
Where has this no doubt deeply traumatised individual been hitherto ; how did Police Scotland misses her in their years-long , extravagantly-resourced , involving 100s of interviewees ( unsuccessful ) search for dirt on Alex ?
I detect the putrid stink of the Sturgeon Cabal behind this , latest , outrage .
There are apparently no limits to the depth of nauseating character assassination they will plumb to escape the consequences of their equally nauseating plot to destroy the man who placed them in their positions of power/influence and whose continuing presence on the political stage exposed them for the lying , twisted utterly corrupt failures that they are .
Patrick
1 day ago
They are more scared of the bones of Alex Salmond, than they are of any of the so called SNP ‘leaders’.
Doug McGregor
1 day ago
This is just a straightforward coercion of Mrs Salmond and family by the powers that be to settle the case quietly with no more damaging revelations about what has gone on and who the perpetrators were.Add the advantages of a consequently smaller damages payout and the cost of defending an unwinnable legal battle. You only have to see how the Post Office workers were treated, now being copied by the Scotgov and their agencies..
It must be heart-breaking for them to have to put up with a fine man’s memory being traduced in public but for our sakes , I hope they can see it through.
Alison
1 day ago
In about 2007 when I was working at one Edinburgh’s universities, I was trying to get in the door carrying a largish box & a bag when A Salmond came up behind me & asked if I needed him to take the box. I said that I didn’t but that I would be grateful if he would get the door for me. He held the door & I passed through.
I thought this was just a helpful gesture from one human towards another but given that I am female & he was male perhaps Carlos would like to interview me?
carjamtic
1 day ago
Tam O’ Shanter
Three baudron’s tongues turned inside out
Wi’ Lies seam’d like a beggar’s clout;
Three hack’s hearts,rotten black as muck,
lay stinking,vile,in every neuk.
Robert Burns
Corrado Mella
1 day ago
How weak do you have to be to feel dutybound to attack a dead person?
How afraid you must of what is inevitably going to happen to yourself and your legacy – including your family – when you’re exposed as a lowlife to lash out this way?
How narcissistic, sociopathic, sadistic, machiavellian, psychopathic you must be to reiterate the same debunked and despised lies that were thrown away by a full tribunal?
How compromised by closeness to one of the perjurors and liars that tried to frame an innocent man you can be before someone takes you to task?
We are so close to uncovering one of the most abhorrent gang of narcissistic psychopaths ever ususrping power in history.
That’s what we are witnessing: the death rattles of a horrible monster that we are ready to stab througfh its dark, cancerous heart.
Their frenzied reaction is bewildering but totally expected.
Don’t fall for their goading by reacting violently, because that’s the tactic of the subhumans affected by the Dark Triad (Narcissism, Psychopathy, Machiavellianistm, Sadism) to play the victim when sane people expose them.
Tell them to their face that you know their game, and are not falling for it. They’ll them that it’s their end, there is no way out.
Stand firm, destroy their false hopes and altered reality, and look for them to self implode.
Meg Merrilees
Reply to Nae Need!
1 day ago
Love it!
Looked up the definition of the Lone Star online. See the following explanation, for Texas substitute Scotland….
definition from txprofiles.com –
‘The single star on the Lone Star flag held deep significance for the people of Texas. ( Scotland) It represented the state’s motto, “The Lone Star State,” and embodied the desire of Texans (Scots) to stand alone as a sovereign nation. This desire for independence was central to the Texas Revolution, and the Lone Star became a rallying symbol for those who fought for Texas’s (Scotland’s) freedom. The Lone Star flag conveyed a clear message: Texas was an independent entity determined to chart its own destiny.
Joan Neilson
1 day ago
I really really don’t think you want my thoughts.Alex was a man on a mission which he almost achieved.Why are they now persecuting his family by publishing such scurrilous stories? I first joined SNP in 1959 when independence was a dream shared by so many who worked their socks off to reach that dream. I’m now almost 84 and am glad that those who have died before me aren’t having to face the fact the party they believed in has degenerated into having “sources close to the party” who feed these disgusting scribblers. I wouldn’t even grant them the title of journalists.
I’m sorry if this is all over the place but I am so very angry that it wasn’t enough to malign him and probably lead him to an early death. To carry on in this way even after death is totally beyond my comprehension
Mia
20 hours ago
“it all starts to look somewhat organised”
It does, doesn’t it?
I do not know what effect all this repulsive and sickening unprecedented level of disrespect towards a man who has just been laid to rest does to others, but to me it raises four main questions:
What is clear to me is that this revolting and unprecedented high pitched assault on the reputation of a dead man cannot be anything other than desperate firefighting. It truly is bottom of the barrel stuff and throwing the sink with pipes and all to it.
What this gives the impression of is that these rats appear to be fighting for something existential that goes well beyond protecting the reputation of a narcissistic political fraud, her handler and her useful idiots. This isn’t longer the battle to save the arse of a political fraud who has now become more a liability than an asset to the British state. This comes across as the actual state fighting for its own survival.
So, my question is, how far up the chain of power does this go? How far up the British state’s echelons of power does this shit go? All the way to the top?
Was the conspiracy against Mr Salmond really an attempt by the British state to behead the independence movement?
From how high up did the instruction to remove Mr Salmond from politics really came?
Because the only thing that all this revolting hubris is doing is to point right that way. The other thing that all this is doing is raising rather big questions as to what really happened on the 18 September 2014. These do not look the actions of a state that won a referendum. This looks like the precise opposite.
So, how many of these “reporters” are MI5 operatives or plants recently “activated”?
How many MI5 operatives were involved in the original conspiracy against Mr Salmond?
How many MI5 operatives were involved rigging the 2014 referendum?
Michael Laing
Reply to Mia
19 hours ago
I highly doubt that ‘No’ won in 2014. There were overwhelming majorities for ‘Yes’ in every on-line poll I saw, including on pro-UK web-sites and the Labour-supporting Daily Record’s web-site. Given the obvious public enthusiasm for the pro-independence campaign and the total indifference to the fake ‘No’ campaign in the run-up to the referendum, I don’t understand why there hasn’t been uproar about the result. Little or no attempt was made to investigate the multiple reports of cheating and dubious activity at the polling and counting stations on the day, or the piles of binned ‘Yes’ ballot papers that were found afterwards.
Michael Laing
Reply to Mia
19 hours ago
I might add that the voters in on-line polls weren’t deliberately selected and ‘weighted’ by commercial pollsters to give results that suited those who commissioned them, but consisted of those who cared enough about the issue to express their opinion. If that was overwhelmingly in favour of ‘Yes’, why would the actual result of the referendum be any any different? It just doesn’t add up.
Geri
Reply to Michael Laing
18 hours ago
The vote was rigged in 2014.
Four dubious events …
1. Yes was winning about ten days out from the vote.
Suddenly, tens of thousands of voters suddenly registered to vote in a late panic. Aye right! A few thousand I could believe, tens of thousands? Not so much. Not after a two year campaign. Everyone knew a referendum was happening but tens of thousands waited yrs to register & only did so 12 days before the referendum?
2. The SNP, having supposedly just been gubbed in a referendum, suddenly turned the whole map yellow for the 2015 General election to return a pro Indy landslide majority to Westminster? Why? Apparently Scotland didn’t want independence so why give the SNP a mandate for another one?
3. The attitudes on the Union poll conducted b Westminster was withheld from public viewing despite tax payers paying for it. It wasn’t being released on the grounds it was a matter of national security. So top secret was it that Tory plebs could guff & fillibust for hours about what the Scots needed was more fucking cricket on telly to help unite the union – ah, right, so the contents must’ve been dire for the union…
4. They won’t agree to hold another one. Ever.
The reason no one kicked up a fuss was because they couldn’t. The referendum was held in a domestic setting rather than an international observed one & obviously, as it was domestic, the barstewards could break purdah rules & fuck up the franchise. There was also the Edinburgh agreement to respect the result. Alex would have been crucified by the yoons for having sour grapes. Plus Alex played by the rules when he should really have played b theirs because I don’t believe they’d have honoured a YES vote. The Edinburgh agreement wasn’t in legal writing that they had to implement that result, just to respect it.
Tartanpigsy
Reply to Michael Laing
18 hours ago
Unfortunately you’re 100% correct in your summary Michael, there were numerous glaring oddities on the day and night of the referendum, too many to go into now, the cleverest bit of the cover up was the ‘race to declare’ this media backed focus on how quick results could be delivered allowed them to defraud us in full site
The UK/England with help from the US was never allowing Scotland to chart another path that night.
The same people with the help of some short sighted narcissists toppled Salmond.
Campbell Clansman
Reply to Michael Laing
17 hours ago
Alex Salmond accepted the results of the Referendum as valid.
Why can’t you, and the other tin-foil hat conspiracy theorists (just a handful of people, most of whom comment on WoS), honor his memory and do likewise?
Robert Hughes
Reply to Campbell Clansman
13 hours ago
And how-the-fuck do you know what really happened ; were you there ; did you count every vote ; follow the vehicles that were taking collections of votes to some unknown location in England – and just why were they being taken there in the first place ( whose idea was that ? ) , did you watch them being unloaded then correctly assessed for YES or No votes ; did you know every single person who used a Postal Vote ( the greatest number of such voters , ever – convenient , eh ) .
No , the fact is you done none of those things , ie you don’t have a fucking clue what took place. In fact , you don’t have a fucking clue about anything to do with Scotland . So , like all contemporary ignoramuses , knowing nothing but not liking what others say , you reach for the dissonance-relieving crutch of calling anything you don’t like a ” tin foil blah conspiracy blah theory blah . WOW ! that’s so original , did you think that up all by yourself ?
All you do is come on here and moronically/obsessively attempt to berate people for voting SNP .
I suppose whatever Party you have ever voted for has always fulfilled your expectations ; never failed to instigate the policies they said the would or the reverse – instigated policies they never mentioned prior to being elected ?
Mia
Reply to Campbell Clansman
12 hours ago
“Why can’t you”
Because all the evidence from the 19th September to this day points towards No having lost.
The political fraud Sturgeon removed the dentures of the SNP early in 2015 claiming a vote for the SNP was not a vote for independence or even a referendum.
That was DESPITE knowing that all the polls were predicting the mother of all SNP landslides in the GE2015. Let’s not forget that such landslide was predicted on the basis of voters seeing the SNP as the party of independence and a vote for the SNP being a vote for independence.
It was clear as day from that moment on that the political fraud had been tasked by the powers that be with reigning in the yes movement and stall independence. And that is what she did, reigning in the yes movement by starving it of political oxygen and destroying the vehicle of independence from within, starting by a controlled demolition of the democratic internal structures.
The only beneficiary of the destruction of the SNP is the British state, so “follow the money”, as they say.
If No had won in 2014, there would have been no need whatsoever to get to such ridiculous lengths to control the vote and neutralise the SNP. If No had won in 2015, you would expect a majority of the vote going to unionist parties so soon after the referendum, not to SNP+Greens. If No had won in 2014, there would not have been any need to remove Mr Salmond from Westminster, to block him from re-entering Holyrood, to force him out of the SNP and to conspire to have him jailed and forever removed from politics despite being innocent.
If No had won in 2014 we would not see the crown office, UK civil service and elements of the police and secret service concocting a conspiracy to remove the only man who was ever anywhere close of delivering independence through a political route. We would not see the “justice” department turning a blind eye to what look like state sponsored criminals or actively dragging their heels to avoid having them prosecuted in a timely manner.
If No had won in 2014, we would not see the state embarrassing itself by actively hunting and prosecuting Hirst or Murray on the most ridiculous of the excuses.
If No had won in 2014 we would not have an unelected representatives of the crown sitting in the cabinet and actively stealing control over the legislative and executive powers of Scotland’s parliament and handing it to the crown in the form of an English crown and judges applying English law and convention.
What explanation can you possibly give for the refusal to hold another referendum?
There is only one credible explanation:
the first referendum was rigged and, for some reason, the cat is out of the bag, so the same dodgy tactics could not be used every again without the British state exposing itself completely.
Vivian O’Blivion
8 hours ago
I have written before about living in a Spookocracy. Did this Spookocracy exist before September 2014? I have no idea, but even if it did, it grew by orders of magnitude after that momentous date.
I have no firm idea of how a “fair” referendum would have panned out in 2014. Certainly, the franchise was flawed, purdah was broken, and the media was partisan to the point of being propaganda (reference the BBC giving former MI6 officer Rory Stewart a two part, prime time documentary to postulate his bizarre, amateur thesis that Scotland, Cumbria and Northumbria were in a long term, stable political and cultural federation *). Claims of mass ballot dumping of No votes from ghost postal voters are unquantifiable.
To add to the list of circumstantial evidence that this Spookocracy exists, we should consider the John Smith Centre (formerly John Smith Centre for Public Service). This was incorporated in 2015, but remained dormant ‘till Kezia Dugdale was employed as its first Director in 2019. For the period it remained dormant, it filed accounts (Trustees Annual Reports) with the Office of the Scottish Charity Regulator. Curiously, as soon as it became active, the JSC apparently found the hitherto unknown loophole that allowed it to hide its accounts under the general umbrella of the University of Glasgow. Thus, we are unable to examine the sources of its funding. A curious move for an organisation operating at the time under the strapline, “Promoting trust in politics “.
And what does the JSC do exactly, beyond the anodyne platitudes that pepper the blurb on its website? Well, it seeks to expand involvement in politics of underrepresented minorities, but how does this work in practice? While class underrepresentation (a genuine phenomenon) remains unaddressed, the JSC focuses its efforts on perceived underrepresentation among the identity groups of race, gender and sexuality (at best, a questionable phenomenon in pro rata terms).
In this, they follow the modus operandi of the Permanent State. Of eight Scottish politicians known to have partaken in the financial largesse of the US State Department, only Humza Yousaf is heterosexual.
I commented the other week on the stushie engulfing Sinn Fèin, where a former Mayor of Belfast was accused of sending inappropriate texts to a young lad (pederasty in Northern Ireland and paedophilia in the Republic where the age of majority is slightly different). I drew potential parallels between this development and past events in the SNP (Derek Mackay, Patrick Grady, Jordan Lyndon, … ). I also noted that an early General Election is very much anticipated in Dublin and that where Sinn Féin had been previously riding high in the polls, their current standing has been diminished by persistent scandals.
This morning a fresh Sinn Féin scandal has broken. This time the politician is heterosexual, but the allegations again revolve round inappropriate texts to a minor. The lawyers of the politician (councillor JJ Magee) describe the release of the e-Mail correspondence as having been selective and edited. Given what we have experienced with Alex, I have the patience to hold judgment and see what eventually emerges.
Timing is everything and serial scandals planted in the press is very much the forté of the Security Services.
* It’s true that the southern border of the Alt Clut at times extended to Westmoreland, but at this point of the Dark Ages, the Kingdom of Northumbria probably extended into the Scottish borders, and the overall situation was transient.
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