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NHTW#53

Wings readers react to the return of Donald Trump as POTUS.

Wednesday, November 20, 2024
64 mins

Wings Over Scotland | The Mandalorian Candidate


Dek

Reply to  Liz

5 days ago

The Herald is staggering to its grave and not before time.


crazycat

5 days ago

“In an industry that seems highbound in jargon..” says Carlos.

I presume he means “hidebound”. I can remember the days when journalists knew* how to use the English language, as did people who’d been to Glasgow High School.

*Some still do, of course.


Alf Baird

Reply to  crazycat

5 days ago

Aye, whit is it wae posh ‘boul in the mou’ preevat ‘colonial’ schuils an aw thay preevelaged fowk gied poseetions o pouer ower us, yet wi nae human vailyies amang thaim an a fousome hatred agin ordinar Scots fowk an oor cultur.

Wi social segregation whit dae ye end up wi? Aye, colonial racism an prejudice. And the highest prison population per capita in Western Europe an aw.

In a colony ‘only the values of the colonizer are sovereign’ (Memmi). And so we see Fanon’s ‘two cultural and psychical realms’, the dominant colonizer culture lacking any human values made superior, the native rendered subordinate, and a social prejudice divide reflecting oppression, including ‘the torture of colonial bi-lingualism’ for the colonized group.

Chas

Reply to  Alf Baird

5 days ago

Irrespective of the subject matter in EVERY article Stu publishes you ALWAYS ignore the content.
You are only interested in promoting what is relevant to you. The use of your version of Scottish words and the inevitable quotes from nobodies simply reveal the shallowness of your thought.
I get the feeling that you think that you are better than the rest of us and feel that is your duty to educate us plebs………………constantly.
No doubt some will be along to try and defend you but, the reality is, you are driving people away from Wings and the Independence movement as a whole.


Michael Laing

Reply to  Chas

5 days ago

“you are driving people away from Wings and the Independence movement as a whole.”

No, that’s exactly what you are trying and failing miserably to do, isn’t it? I don’t know why you think any supporter of independence would give any credence to your insulting comments. You’re obviously a yoon troll and your aim is to distract, divert and disrupt.


Vivian O’Blivion

5 days ago

Clients of Carlos Alba Media include two Scottish Government QUANGOS, Visit Scotland and Skills Development Scotland. Clients also include Quality Meat Scotland which although presumably a trade body, likely receives State funding to some extent.

I wonder how these entities regard their connection to such a vile, peddler of fabricated, post mortem lies?

Vivian O’Blivion

5 days ago

Is Carlos Alba a willing conduit feeding stories concocted in Thames House into the media?

I commented the other week on the stushie engulfing Sinn Fèin, where a former Mayor of Belfast was accused of sending inappropriate texts to a young lad (pederasty in Northern Ireland and paedophilia in the Republic where the age of majority is slightly different). I drew potential parallels between this development and past events in the SNP (Derek Mackay, Patrick Grady, Jordan Lyndon, … ). I also noted that an early General Election is very much anticipated in Dublin and that where Sinn Féin had been riding high in the polls, their current standing has been diminished by persistent scandals.

This morning a fresh Sinn Féin scandal has broken. This time the politician is heterosexual, but the allegations again revolve around inappropriate texts to a minor. The lawyers of the politician (councillor JJ Magee) describe the release of the e-Mail correspondence as having been selective and edited. Given what we have experienced with Alex, I have the patience to hold judgment and see what eventually emerges.

Timing is everything and serial scandals (whether fabricated, or real but held in reserve for the maximum impact) planted in the press is very much the forté of the Security Services.

Lorna Campbell

Reply to  Vivian O’Blivion

5 days ago

Sinn Fein opened itself up to all this when it embraced the gender woo woo with such enthusiasm. Have been predicting an implosion for quite some time. Will go the way of the SNP and any other party that embraces this ordure. It is firmly embedded in deviant sexual practices and fetishes/paraphilias (not homosexuality). So, no independence for Scotland and a united Ireland pushed to the margins. Jesus wept! When are people going to understand what this movement is and who is behind it, and why?


Terry

5 days ago

Was this disgusting smear too sordid for the usual suspects so they get a no-mark like Carlos to run with it – then the gutter press jump on it and spread it like the shit it is? It is already backfiring. Nobody believes it. And if they think that hammering repeatedly at alex will reduce our passion for indy they’re fools. He will always inspire us but his dream was our dream too and it has been a 300 year campaign – we will do this for Scotland – and for Alex.


David Hannah

Reply to  Bob Costello

5 days ago

These latest made up allegations were reported to Peter Murrell 2 years ago. They were on Peter Murrell’s desk.

Salmond of course left the SNP in 2018. The majority female jury cleared Alex Salmond of all charges in 2020. And created the Alba Party in 2021?

Sturgeon’s husband has questions to answer. Perhaps he can firefight this one on all fronts?

Woman H was reprimanded by Lady Dorian 4 times for trying to lead the Jury. And was warned she’d be in contempt of court if she did it again.

Sarah Smith BBC journo was overheard saying, they’ll never believe her (Woman H) or words to that effect/ They’ll never convict him now.

Because he was innocent. And the perjurers committed perjury under the nose of Lady Dorian.

The Crown Office has covered it up. It’s great to know Lady Dorian – Scotland’s Jury Hating Judge, her legacy won’t be juryless trials. Scottish legal wasn’t happy and neither was Scotland.

Maybe she can start to reveal the truth and save her tainted and tarnished reputation. Tarnished by corruption.

But we know what she is… Lady Dorian… she’s a journalist jailing Judge. When she jailed Craig Murray. For publishing the truth about the Alex Salmond failed conspiracy.

Scotland. The Tartan Pariah Kingdom. That jails journalists.

Drain the Loch ladies and gents. Sturgeon’s SWAMP. DRAIN HER LOCH!

Set the truth free. ALEX SALMOND WAS INNOCENT!

They trousered the missing 600K.

The 8 mandates for Independence wasn’t enough for these horrible bastards.

The crooked Dorothy Bain made sure to delete Scotland as a nation in the wrong court in the wrong country.

We know she was acting on behalf of Nicola Sturgeon. The destroyer of women’s rights and the betrayer of the Independence cause!

Hounding a man into an early grave – the Nicola Sturgeon legacy.

LOCK HER UP!

Ian Brotherhood

5 days ago

If the British intelligence services suddenly decided to bring all of their Scottish assets ‘in from the cold’, you have to wonder who’d be left.

Tinto Chiel

Reply to  Ian Brotherhood

5 days ago

Quite so, me old haricot.

Of course, it didn’t go too well for Richard Burton’s character, innit?


Alf Baird

Reply to  Ian Brotherhood

5 days ago

Aye Ian, a wheen o fowk bocht an selt, an ye hiv tae conseeder that iverybody insnorit in thon colonial racket is bent as a nine bob note.

Mind ye, twa-three million poonds fir hunners o MI5 gadgies is money weel spent tae keep the £150 billion a year Scottish colonial racket gaun.

Confused

5 days ago

thought for the day –
“Journalism is not a profession or a trade. It is a cheap catch-all for fuckoffs and misfits—a false doorway to the backside of life, a filthy piss-ridden little hole nailed off by the building inspector, but just deep enough for a wino to curl up from the sidewalk and masturbate like a chimp in a zoo-cage.”


Confused

5 days ago

(hunter s thompon before, of course, but all wingers would know that)

So, some no-mark bum from nowhere, just gets a story (of no substance) splashed over the media … ? And it just happened, right now, like that? Why not before, or after, or along with the rest of it?

– do I detect a hidden hand?

“never forget who you are dealing with” – they don’t respect democracy, the rule of law, the will of the people.

the spooks are there to support the heinous crimes of the establishment, control politicians via blackmail and to smear the innocent. People need to think of our opponents as truly evil.

This is some dark reading, now think – how much more valuable is Scotland than NI? The second link has some nasty details, so skip if squeamish.

link to declassifieduk.org

link to coverthistory.ie

There is a streak of sexual sadism among the establishment which comes from the public schools – “le vice anglais” (it’s almost always little boys).

– considering who we are dealing with, am I really sure Salmond’s death was “natural causes”? Heart attacks are the clever way to do it, creating no suspicion in a man over 60. I can think of 3 substances which will stop the heart – snake venom, digitalis, lily of the valley – and I am not a chemist, nor do I have access to one of the world’s worst poison factories at Porton Down.

Timing is always the give-away; people who start to become a problem, don’t last long; accidents or that classic “got sad and took a lot of pills”.

Callum

4 days ago

Carlos Alba penned a whole series of homophobic stories during the Section 28 debate and today’s media are quite content to run a smear story about Alex Salmond penned by Alba. It highlights why the public now distrust what is published and broadcast by the MSM.


Mac

4 days ago

This is a must watch, Elon Musk on Rogan. He is really quite frightening at times discussing why this could be the last real US election…

When you hear one of the smartest people on the planet saying these shocking things that you yourself suspected (but hoped wasn’t as bad) it is very sobering.

We are in bad spot right now and what happens next in the US is going to be pivotal for the world.

Amazingly they also talk about Saville (and how he was a made man) and the BBC… And the general state of freedoms in Britain right now.

Really well worth watching. The more I listen to Musk the more he impresses me.

link to x.com

twathater

Reply to  Dan

4 days ago

I went to fill in the consultation re land reform on the Scotgov website and lo and behold the consultation is now closed, I find consultations like this one insulting and enraging, WE have to go through a whole rigmarole of consultations , planning consents and planning objections in an attempt to oversee and control the misuse and abuse of large estate owners
The Loch Lomond development is a perfect example of how quangos and unelected bureaucrats do NOT work on behalf of the people , despite a historic record of objections against ANY development in Scotland it still was on a knife edge
These peoples ancestors STOLE this land through either bullying or patronage to a royal, WTF should we have to pay them to get it returned to the people who it was stolen from
And as for Mike Russell being part of that grouping , is that the same Mike Russell that wanted the SNHS privatised with people having to take out insurance to cover their health needs

Tinto Chiel

Reply to  twathater

4 days ago

I’m afraid radical land reform will never occur under this compromised Scottish Government.

In 2017, Sturgeon announced banker Benny Higgins would advise and assist the SG in establishing a Scottish National Investment Bank.

Two years later he became the Duke of Buccleuch’s land agent, managing the latter’s property portfolio.

Np wonder Graeme McCormick’s Annual Ground Floor and Roof Rent scheme gained no traction in the SNP.


twathater

Reply to  Dan

4 days ago

There is a very informative programme on DISPATCHES channel 4 with collaboration from the Times newspaper EXPOSING the despicable and disgusting ways and means that Charlie and his boay Wullie EXTORT their vast riches from charities like MacMillan Cancer or the RLNI , fucking hypocrites, they even charge the MOD and their sodjers for using their moors for training

Achnababan

Reply to  wullie

4 days ago

Mike Russell is in charge of the Scottish Land Commission which is meant to promote community land ownership. The SLC has betrayed land reform in Scotland by sucking up to international capitalists and begging them to give local people some scraps from the table. Another national disgrace…thanks SNP.


Stuart MacKay

4 days ago

So, it looks like Orange Bad Man is on for a win, and by a substantial margin, relative to recent results, too. Given the ocean of wishful thinking that was published over the campaign, how much longer can journalists delude themselves that they peddle anything but propaganda. Hang them all, but what do we replace them with?


Robert Hughes

Reply to  Stuart MacKay

4 days ago

Indeed , Stuart . The sheer unhinged delusion with which they * marketed * Harris + the hysterical hyperbole re the End Of Days scenario resulting from a Trump victory , should , but almost certainly won’t – cause the pro-Dem MSM to hang it’s head in shame . Quite gratifying to know all of the money , rebranding , camouflage & subterfuge poured into the Harris campaign – the refusal by the latter to face serious questioning or speak honestly ( or even coherently ) on any subject , was insufficient for them to disguise the desperate/ tragic domestic & foreign policy failures of the Biden/Harris tenure .

The necessary corrective to the malign idiocy of , eg * Gender * Ideology ; the relentless stupidity of the Critical Race Theory Industry and endless promotion of foreign conflict may now be beginning .

Zelensky’s free run at demanding ( and getting ) $/Euros/£ billions from other countries’ tax payers & driving the world to suicide on he and his cronies’ behalf is over . Time to face the reality of absolute defeat and devastation brought about by the utter folly of going along with demented & hubristic U.S ulteriorly motivated geopolitical fuckery .

Alas – unless he was merely going along with the AIPAC-Super Lobby in order to not have them undermine his election campaign – Trump has shown no desire to give the P……ians the justice they’ve been denied for 70+ years , the lack of which is the bleeding , never-healing wound of the M.E that will keep the region in flames as long as this awful situation continues unresolved .


Robert Hughes

Reply to  Willie

4 days ago

Aye , someone pass Swinney / Flynn & the rest of the SNP bed-wetters a towel : the egg on their faces looks ridiculous . Utter clowns , sticking their oars into something they had no need to . Give to the their equally ridiculous English counterparts in Neu New Labour


Harry Dunlop

2 days ago

Imagine my surprise when listening to Radio Scotland’s phone in this morning (9am onwards) to hear none other than the bold Carlos Alba holding court on the implications of Trump’s election victory. I shouted at the radio, ‘what the hell is going on’ while, mentally, penning an email to BBC Scotland, to ask ‘why him, why now?’ Something very sinister is afoot, how is he becoming so prolific in the print media and now, it seems, on our public broadcaster too?

Wings Over Scotland | How it happened

Achnababan

4 days ago

So John Swinney has backed the wrong horse again. Arise Sir Numpty. Stay out of other people’s elections and sort oot yer ain pairty!!


Astonished

Reply to  Achnababan

3 days ago

Swinney is a big part of the problem. He will never remove the transcult from the nuSNP.

Possibly, because he’s too busy trying to cover things up, keep Sturgeon’s skeletons in the closet, keeping Dotty Bain onside, and trying to stop Scotland finding out about him and the rest of the plotters.

gregor

Reply to  Achnababan

3 days ago

The Spectator: SNP members slam Swinney’s support of Kamala:

“…now the SNP leader has found out he backed the wrong horse at the US election.

Talk about a bad bet! Last month, Swinney lent his support to Kamala, telling Scottish voters:

“People in the United States of America should vote for Kamala Harris…”

A senior SNP figure also told the Times that Swinney’s endorsement was ‘f***ing stupid’…

…while another Nat remarked to Mr S: ‘The First Minister should focus on his own country before he looks anywhere else!’…”:

link to archive.ph


Dave Hansell

Reply to  Jay

3 days ago

“The incompetence of the US Democratic party is broader than the ‘Transexual’ issue.”

Precisely.

The trans/woke issue (whose definition & whose doing the counting etc) is but one issue among many and right now, in the present context, was unlikely to necessarily be the top priority for a statistically significant number of voters but one amongst many.

Which includes this issue, as observed here by Australian journalist Caitlin Johnson:

link to caitlinjohnstone.com.au

“Turns out campaigning on the promise of continuing a genocide while courting endorsements from war criminals like Dick Cheney is not a great way to get progressives to vote for you.”

Or regular human beings for that matter.

Who would’ve thought?

“To be clear, this is not a good result. A good result was not possible this election. The warmongering Zionist genocide monster lost, which means the other warmongering Zionist genocide monster won.”

An observation underlined by Palestinian-American Congresswoman Rashida Tlaib who won a seat in Congress for a fourth time in the Michigan 12th congressional district election with 69.4% of the vote, almost three times the tally of Republican Richard Hooper in second place – go figure.

As noted prior to yesterday’s election

link to theintercept.com

This was a major issue for many who normally voted democrat.

And we have not even touched on the fact that the ‘Democrats’ fielded an empty vacuous empty vessel of a candidate who could not, and did not even bother to, win a single primary.

The Trump win is the Democrats fault. Not for a single reason – as though it’s possible to divide reality into single issue stovepipes within rigid self-contained borders with no systemic overlap (because reality does not operate on such reductionist terms) – but for a variety of complex reasons.

Robert Hughes

3 days ago

Spot-on , Stu . Personally , I wasn’t sure Trump would be * allowed * to win – and I suppose we still have to wait to see if his opponents will persist in their attempt to prevent him assuming the role of POTUS – via Lawfare . But the ( likely ) margin of his victory should – at least – remove any doubt or attempted denial of the clear majority of the U.S Electorate’s choice .

*Woke * just got it’s marching orders ; Hurrah !

If he does the right thing , ie gets rid of the Permanent State ghouls & Warmongers , and follows – through on his pre-election pledges to give good , decent people like RFK Jnr & Tulsi Gabbard free reign to do the right thing/s ( in this respect , he would be wise to bring in the calm rationality and insight of Col Doug MacGregor ) the U.S may once again embrace sanity .

It was again a truly abysmal choice presented to the U.S Electorate : they made the right choice nonetheless


Robert Hughes

Reply to  Skip_NC

3 days ago

1st : hope you were/are ok after the awful devastation of the Carolinas . Yes , well , let’s hope the * inevitable * backlash against the demented * Woke * idiocy doesn’t result in an embrace of eye-for-an-eye revenge by the * religious * Right . I think – paradoxically – that Handmaid’s Tale analogy had more validity when applied to the * Left’s * attempt to suppress any criticism of * Progressive * dogma , inc it’s lunatic * Transgenderism * manifestation . As I said earlier ……if he’s smart , Trump will give RFK Jnr & Tulsi Gabbard ( just 2 of the many former Dems so sickened by the degeneration of that Party , they aligned with Trump ) the opportunity to do the things they’ve said the would , ie in RFK Jnrs case ” Make America Healthy Again ” , by tackling the enormously detrimental Food Industry ; and in Gabbard’s case addressing the indoctrination & subsequent mutilation of children via * Gender * Ideological * affirmation * of childhood fantasies

Charles Hodgson

3 days ago

Disgusting intro to your post.
Heard of Lawfare?
EJC had no corroboration, is batshit crazy and thinks rape is “sexy”.
Got her sexual fantasy played out in court with no evidence, supported by a corrupt judiciary. Believe all women? My arse. Only in DNC New York.
How you can see the Salmond conspiracy lies and smears, and the same for Julian Assange, but not this is astonishing. And hypocritical.
The DNC Neo-Con / Deep State War machine / Media & Big Pharma are a disgusting tyranny which must be destroyed, or there will be no more world to fight over.
Thank you American citizens for starting the fight-back.


Alf Baird

Reply to  Charles Hodgson

3 days ago

“How you can see the Salmond conspiracy lies and smears, and the same for Julian Assange, but not this is astonishing. And hypocritical.”

Quite. It is an odd and highly selective and subjective opinion given what we know. Maybe this is because Trump is not considered as ‘articulate’, even by the more enlightened elements of the bourgeoisie, the latter still prone to socio-linguistic prejudice?


Alf Baird

3 days ago

Helpful analysis Rev, which also in part explains why folks vote for Farage after giving up on woke parties who oppress the masses. Farage is England’s national liberator in waiting. His difficulty here is he thinks he also speaks for Scots on the question of national identity, but that only works for the more assimilated Scot who still falls for the Anglo-Brit cultural illusion.

History tells us that national identity, which is based on a peoples language and culture, is the only bulwark against colonialism. Which explains why ‘an independence movement depends on the solidarity of the oppressed ethnic group’ (Hechter), the Scots in oor case.

Scots also arguably need a Trump tae harness national solidarity an drain oor colonial swamp. Swinney’s woke colonial administrators winna dae it because thay’re aw bocht an selt an noo pairt o the colonial racket.

Swinney’s woke neo-colonialists hate Trump because he is a liberator o fowk, same as Alex Salmond wis, an Farage is for the English primarily.

Which suggests oor fae is colonialism, nae maitter whit kintra we’re fae, an oor anely sauviour is oor naitional identity.


Alf Baird

Reply to  Skip_NC

3 days ago

No global warmongering as far as I recall, big tick there from many folks. Yes, Trump did not quite manage to clear out Washington’s bad apples last time, but this time will surely be different, he knows precisely who they are.

Similar applied with Alex Salmond ‘taking power’ in 2007 and 2011; he should have insisted on creating a new ‘Scottish Civil Service’ wae a new set o heid bummers appointed to run the sub-state, maybe including some Scots even! Instead colonial foxes were left inside the chicken coop…..


Alf Baird

Reply to  Skip_NC

3 days ago

After what the past four years of Biden/Harris and Blinken/Nuland has yielded, you voted for more of the same? Were you expecting a different outcome?

That’s as daft as voting SNP and thinking its a vote for independence.

link to dearscotland.substack.com


Jay

Reply to  Alf Baird

3 days ago

Hello Alf,
Some English people do recognise and support Scottish nationhood and national liberation. Do you really think Farage is one of them?

Most likely that some English people would view with disgust your suggestion that Farage has a role as national liberator and regard it as insulting as your colonisers suggesting that Sturgeon is the greatest Scots woman.

I see Farage as a neo-con/neo-liberal who would sell any national natural resources to corporate interests, privatise anything.

Maybe I will read some Fanon oneday. Best regards.

Alf Baird

Reply to  Jay

3 days ago

Yes, Farage would seem an unlikely liberator of Scots. However, if given the choice I suspect he would not be dissatisfied with an independent England.

And yes, his cultural-political ideology is essentially one of private ownership/profit driven, i.e. Anglo Saxon; but this is the dominant ideology that has been forced upon Scotland, the latter being mair a common good, public ownership, equality focused culture, as per Claim of Right. It is these two cultures that are incompatible in the UK ‘Union’ hoax, much as we saw in the different policy approaches taken in Holyrood during the Salmond era in particular.

Fanon indicated that whilst ‘the colonizer on the left may be sympathetic’ to the cause of an oppressed native group, he also maintained that: ‘his independence is a matter only for the colonized’. It is also well established that people coming from rest-UK have the highest propensity of all ethnic groups to vote against Scottish independence, i.e. almost twice as high as that of Scots. Hence Hechter’s statement that ‘an independence movement depends on the solidarity of the oppressed ethnic group’.


Jay

Reply to  Alf Baird

3 days ago

Alf, a fundamental difference between English and Scottish history, concerning where sovereignity lies (of which i have learned through this website and Salvo) could indicate that in England there is a deeply rooted structure for imposition of the ‘Anglo-Saxon’ economic model to which you refer, whether the English people like it or no.

In English history i encountered reference to ‘the Norman Bastard and his armed banditti’.
Cannot give a source but maybe ‘The Making of the English Working Class’, EP. Thompson.
There is the implication that the effects of conquest could have been far-reaching, maybe you can tell us whether that is where the ‘sovereignity-in-crown’ originates in England.

It is clear enough that Scotland has a problem of non-Scots moving in. Principled Leftists should be expected to respect a Scottish National movement (struggle!) even if they be English. Have you any evidence that Farage would defer to Scottish assertion of Independence?

Some in England might arrive at the border pleading for Scots nationality if there were to be a Farage regime in England.


Alf Baird

Reply to  Jay

3 days ago

We know of the sovereignty in England of Westminster and hence its MPs due to various legal decisions, not least the Cherry case.

We know, from previous legal decisions and from parliamentary debates that, in Scotland, sovereignty rests with the people.

We know from Scotland’s enforced EU exit, from successive referendum mandates being ignored, from the forgotten ‘Vow’ promises made in 2014, and from numerous other instances, that the sovereignty of the Scottish people is never respected by Westminster and its MPs.

And we know from postcolonial theory that, in a colony, it is ‘only the values of the colonizer that are sovereign’ (Memmi), and the colonized are ‘out of the game’.

History indicates what the colonizer may do whenever the colonized assert their right to self-determination/independence. Which is why postcolonial theory considers ‘the root of colonialism to be fascism’ (Cesaire).

Alf Baird

Reply to  Aidan

2 days ago

The fundamental difference in the meaning of sovereignty between Scotland is well established, and well-known, in Scotland at least. The proposed Scottish Independence Bill of 2014 is one of many such references which states that:

“In Scotland, the people are sovereign.”

link to consult.gov.scot

..and that, referring to Lord President Cooper in the legal case of MacCormick v Lord Advocate2 when he said:

“The principle of the unlimited sovereignty of Parliament is a distinctively English principle which has no counterpart in Scottish constitutional law. It derives its origin from Coke and Blackstone, and was widely popularised during the nineteenth century by Bagehot and Dicey. Considering that the Union legislation extinguished the Parliaments of Scotland and England and replaced them by a new Parliament, I have difficulty in seeing why it should be supposed that the new parliament of Great Britain must inherit all the peculiar characteristics of the English Parliament but none of the Scottish Parliament, as if all that happened in 1707 was that Scottish representatives were admitted to the Parliament of England. That is not what was done.3”

In other words any notion of England’s parliament holding constitutional sovereignty over the Scottish people/nation is a myth, and a colonial hoax, albeit quite an effective one to date.

Aidan

Reply to  Alf Baird

2 days ago

Okay, so firstly the Scottish Independence Bill of 2014 wasn’t passed, so isn’t law. Secondly, nowhere in MacCormick is there a positive statement that sovereignty lies with the people, there is just a question over whether unlimited sovereignty can apply into Scotlands constitutional law. Even if we agreed that point, it doesn’t mean that sovereignty rests with the people. That’s putting aside the normal issues raised, that the statement was made obiter (and therefore is not authoritative) without specific submissions being made on that point, and also that the Lord Advocate by his own admission had no power to determine that issue.

If we want a conclusive answer to this question, the UNCRC Bill Reference case provides the following at paragraph 7: “And Parliament has an unlimited power to make laws for Scotland”


Alan McMahon

Reply to  Aidan

2 days ago

The Claim of Right, in which sovereignty of the people of Scotland is enshrined, is a fundamental constitutional document and held to be so by the Westminster Parliament. It was recall not a provision of the Treaty of Union but a precondition. The fact that it is systematically flouted by England-as-UK does not make it any less valid and forceful. The Anglostate parliament has had the opportunity to vote down its applicability and has chosen not to do so rather than bring down the entire pack of cards.


Dan

Reply to  Aidan

1 day ago

C’mon Aidan, ffs it’s Friday evening, mix it up a little from all this dry legal shizzle.
We’re currently in the Union so let’s hear some of the top ten reasons why Scotland should continue in the Union.
Hit us with some superslick Swiss Tony stylée stuff.
Like “It’s fucking great having so much of our energy generation infrastructure sold off and owned by foreign interests with little to no benefit to ourselves because…”.

Maybe get in how to save Chas’ golf course from being flooded out by bastarding beaver antics.
If this Union is so fucking great it really shouldn’t be a hard sell to convince us pesky plebs to stay.


Xaracen

Reply to  Aidan

22 hours ago

“the broad framework and parameters that guide that autonomous expression will always be defined by a Parliament in which the majority of MP’s are elected outwith Scotland.”

And there’s the entire problem with the Union’s parliament and its governance!

The Westminster Parliament contains TWO bodies of MPs, not one. They are not identical in numbers, and they are not identical in who and what they formally represent. Treating them as identical for the purposes of a flat vote to determine the outcome of debates between the two bodies -in effect between the two sovereign kingdoms because that is precisely why they are there in the first place- is NOT a formally agreed requirement of the Treaty of Union, nor of its two ratifying Acts.

One of those bodies are the sole formal representatives of the entire English sovereign half of the Union, while the other body are the sole formal representatives of the entire Scottish sovereign half of the Union.

Despite the vast difference in their numbers, the authorities those two bodies wield on behalf of their respective parent kingdoms are exactly equal, because both bodies stand in loco parentis for the two equally sovereign kingdoms that negotiated, agreed, signed and ratified the Treaty of Union. Both being sovereign in their own territories, neither can be obliged to defer to the other on any matter of governance of their territories from their SHARED UNION parliament, and that applies to their MP representatives, too.

There is literally nothing in any of the formal founding documents of the Union that obliges Scotland and her formal representatives to defer to England on ANY matter of governance. As important, there is nothing in those documents that obliges the use of a flat voting system within the new Union parliament for determining outcomes of debates on any matter of the joint governance of the Union.

England’s MPs thus have NO legitimate authority to overrule Scotland’s MPs on any matter of Union governance, because neither Scotland nor the Treaty and/or Acts of Union gave them any.

If you wish to argue otherwise, then please quote the relevant formal agreements from those founding documents that set out Scotland’s obligation to subjugate itself to England and her MPs. It is only Scotland’s MPs who provide Westminster with any governance authority over Scotland at all, and absent them, Westminster’s authority over Scotland and the Union vanishes completely.

As for Scotland’s constitution, its 1689 Claim of Right did not create Scotland’s constitution any more than the 1309 Declaration of the Clergy at St. Andrews did, nor the 1320 Declaration of Arbroath. It merely cited a number of its already existing elements, doing so for the sole purpose of demonstrating the validity of its authority to depose King James VII for heinously breaching many of those elements. And he was neither the first monarch nor the last to feel its teeth on his arse.


Vivian O’Blivion

3 days ago

This is a good outcome. Trump has won the Electoral College and the popular vote (as things stand). A worse result would be Trump taking the Electoral College, but not the popular vote. In that scenario, the Democrats would be able to tell themselves that they are fundamentally on the correct path, they just need to … (fill in the blank).

A good old trouncing in the Electoral College, the popular vote and the Senate should prompt some existential introspection. It won’t!

In these circumstances, financial donations actually increase, as the Dems left standing play the “resistance” grift. That, and they market Pussy Hats like they did the last time.

Mit der Dummheit kamfen Gotter selbst vergebens.


Mia

Reply to  Aidan

2 days ago

A set of misspelled “English” words you say.

Alf could also say to you the exact opposite: why don’t you stop boring us all with your faux Scots? Why don’t you stop speaking “a set of misspelled” Scots words? Because it all depends on the perspective you are looking at it from.

Now take a look at the languages Castilian (Spanish) and Portuguese. Both come from the Latin. They have many common words and many more words that are even closer than Scots and English words are. However, you would be classified as the most spectacular ignorant of the century if you dared claim that Portuguese is “a series of misspelt” Spanish words.

Now take a look at the languages Galician and Portuguese. They share a root (Latin) and geographic boundary between themselves and with Castile. All those boundaries are highly porous. Castilian, Galician and Portuguese are fully recognised as different languages. Portuguese and Galician are closer than Castilian and Portuguese or Galician and Castilian. In fact, a person speaking Galician can be understood by a Portuguese speaking person and vice versa. Claiming that Galician is “a series of misspelt” Portuguese words would be the kind of thing that only a supreme, self-centred ignorant, who things the world revolves around their own belly-button, would ever say. Mind you, that kind of self-centred superlative ignorant existed: Franco. He was the spectacularly illiterate and ignorant individual who attempted to suppress any language that was not his beloved Castilian to be spoken in the Iberian peninsula. And do you want to know what the worse part of it was? Franco’s native tongue was Galician, not Castilian. He used Galician to communicate with Portugal’s president Salazar. Franco represented the pinnacle of “the cringe”.

I believe the exact same applies to English and Scots. In fact, the separation between Scots seems, in some cases, far more evident than that between Spanish and Portuguese or between Galician and Portuguese. In my own opinion, only somebody who is completely ignorant about languages or somebody who has been wholly absorbed and blinded by a bout of Scottish cringe would ever claim that Scots is just misspelled English.


Stuart MacKay

3 days ago

“It’s the economy, stupid” – Jim Carville, strategist in Bill Clinton’s 1992 campaign.

Americans looked at each candidate and picked the one which is most likely to deliver a “better” future. All the gender woo-woo makes for great headlines but the reality is that if Harris lost because the average voter looked at lots more regulation and concluded their lives wouldn’t be improved by it. Simples.

Now, the real message is that everybody on this side of the Atlantic who backed progressive policies is totally f****d because they cannot remotely deliver on making peoples’ lives easier but neither can the current “right”. The party that comes along and makes that promise will sweep the board.

UPDATE: The House and the Senate look like they will fall into the hands of the Republicans, so the progressives in Europe just lost their ideological mentors. I expect electorates across Europe to swing right in an attempt to clean out all the nonsense.


Mac

3 days ago

Stu, the 34 felonies and rapist stuff are lawfare bollocks. Not dissimilar to what was done to Alex (just nowhere near as bad). Trump has some significant flaws but these are bogus ones IMHO.

By far the largest flaw is his support for a state currently executing a gen0cide / ethnic cle@nsing.

Other than that I think the rest of what he saying is totally fine and I think a lot of it will really work.

RFK Jr, again apart from his raging zi0nism, is really excellent and Musk is a stone cold genius. Just for those two alone Trump was the better choice. So apart from all the raging Zi0nism I think they are at least talking a very good game.

But then we come to his second greatest flaw, his ability to appoint the wrong people in key roles. Who then frustrate his agenda… but listening to his last few speeches he is very aware of this. So we will see what happens second time around…

I don’t normally watch any UK media at all, print, TV, nothing. But watching the BBC, Channel 4 etc this morning they are so anti trump and pro democrat I can see why people in the UK are all the same.

Something like 75% of Scots support Harris. That is insane. The funny thing is it really reminds me of the anti-ru$$ia, P-u-tin reactions you get as well.

What blows my mind is that even hard core Scottish nationalists who know that the media are lying sacks of shit still buy into what they say outside of the Scottish independence bubble. Why? it is mind boggling.

They are lying to them about everything Scotland but telling them the truth on everything else… They just buy it. If anything has made me doubt independence it is this ability to engineer and shape public opinion. What would be the fucking point. Independence is about thinking for yourself, at least it is to me.

Mac

3 days ago

What I found notable in his victory speech was he said something like his central policy theme second time around is going to be ‘Promises Made and Promises Kept’.

So Trump knows he was largely thwarted first time around and the way he is making this explicit and front and centre I think is a very good early sign. This is definitely going to be interesting.

They have fucked up here, they should have let him win in 2020 and he would have been containable as he was in the previous 4 years.

Now they have created a monster with a monster mandate who has had four long years to understand what went wrong in his first term and how.

Trump could now actually fuck the ‘deep state’ up in a meaningful way (and I really hope he does).

If they had let him win in 2020 I don’t think he would have been capable of it, now I do.

Umpteenth Steve

3 days ago

Millions of lives will be spared by Trump’s election. He will end the Ukraine war and resist attempts by Deep State to drag the US into other wars. Kamala Harris is the Deep State’s puppet and would have done the opposite.

Trump will avoid global conflict because that is the most profitable course of action for him and the gangsters he represents. They want to milk the US taxpayers for their own benefit rather than spend $trillions conquering the world on behalf of Globalists who mostly aren’t even American.

For all the wrong reasons, the world is a safer place with Trump as president rather than Harris. Unfortunately both candidates are in thrall to Israel so the Palestine slaughter will continue.


Neil Singleton

3 days ago

I had no skin in the US election game but it gave me a certain amount of satisfaction that the utterly anti Trump BBC, ITV and Sky News are weeping bitter tears. What I hope Trump DOES do is complete the investigation of Hunter’s laptop and expose the bribery and corruption of the Biden crime family, release ALL the names of Epstein’s guests who visited peedo island, and clean out the anti Republican CIA and FBI.

wally jumblatt

3 days ago

I think he wants America to be independent of Washington, the Deep State and Wall St.

Maybe independent-minded people would understand that.

He is a flawed candidate -but hey, Bush, Bush Jr, Hillary Clinton, O’Bamma, Biden and Harris -come on. The Democrats haven’t offered up anyone in decades.(not a very democratic bunch as far as I can see). Bill Clinton not a crook? Anyone who flags Trump as a ‘convicted felon’ is a hypocrit.
He wants small government, the Harris option was purposely taking away all freedoms.

He wasn’t Adolf’lite last time around, won’t be this time around, and is trying to bring in talented people from outside DC. Give him a break, it’s a primitive country and it works best with simple solutions (not that we can talk)

Liz

3 days ago

I hope Trump is mad enough at Swinney to release all the info re the Alex stitch up.

I’m not so much glad Trump won as the reaction to his win from all the Brit media, celebs, woke politicians
It’s hilarious

I believe our politicians should court Trump to raise our profile re independence but they’re too busy being woke twats for that

Breeks

Reply to  Liz

3 days ago

Hmmmmm… maybe. But I seem to recall Trump and Salmond weren’t exactly best buddies.

What Trump should do is pretty obvious.

The US spends $3 Trillion maintaining, I think it was 800 military bases all over the world, but for all that eye watering cash spent, Western weaponry has been exposed as obsolete and ineffective… (mostly). Trump needs to think about his own rhetoric, and focus upon lesser foreign commitment, bringing the boys home, and finding some R&D funding at home. Make American “guns” Great Again.

That catch is, while that course of action may be obvious, Trump has the wee problem of a lunatic wee Zion1st who donated $1billion dollars to his campaign, and now expects Trump to deliver for Netanyouknowwho, because you know, the US has the best democracy that money can buy. Is it a billion? 100 million… I think that’s a billion to the yanks… Big fat cheque anyway…

(As an aside: Do you recall how many people were chewing wasps about alleged interference and nefarious contact with the Ru$$ians? Yet a $Billion bung from the Genocidal maniacs in the Middle East is perfectly fine… Nothing to see, move along there).

I think Trumpy Boy has a $Billion tiger by the tail, and at some point, he’s gonna have to let it go.

Europe is kinda screwed… at least until the Ru$$ians have grown tired of all the grovelling and endless democratic crises, not to mention fallout from global car companies contemplating bankruptcy. Europe will grovel, grovel some more, and “R” will do business, in a BRICS friendly way of course… See your wee Euros? How do you say it, err, “Non,… Nein…”

As for the UK? Oh! Oh! I suspect a Storm Shadow missile to the foot is gonna take a long time to heal, in a friendless and bitter world. Don’t invest in gold folks, my advice buy land, and stick some oats, neeps and tatties in it. You know the drill…Lots of carbs and fibre to fill you up and keep you warm. Yum! Yum!

Please excuse me doing the mini-me Rev Stu, but those of you paying attention might remember wee Breeks bringing all of this tragic potential to your notice several years ago… But don’t feel bad. Apart from Indy in 2014, or 2016, pretty much all of this was, and is, beyond our control. (Although shutting down Trident would have got us mega Brownie points…)

Scapa Flow is still sitting there, all deep and empty, and it would still make a lovely BRICS friendly freight handling terminal for uber-Container Ships continually frustrated by shipping congestion in Western Europe.

All we need to do is find the deepest water, furthest from the shore, maybe add a Killer whale or two, and throw all our dysfunctional tre@cherous dipshit politicians overboard for a swim; see if they can outrun the Ferry on course to run them down. Then we do exactly the same for continued Westminster rule by those Imbeciles.

Back to Trump… Who knows with Donald, but Miriam Adelson might be in line for a wee cultural reminder that you really shouldn’t pay the ferryman until you’re standing on the other side… even when the fare is for a $billion. I’m gonna stick my neck out and take a guess she’s a bit too much money on her hands anyway.

The genocidal maniacs might get upset, as is their want, and send a wee drone to take out another Leader they disapprove of, but I hope Trump gets lucky again, because Oor Donald being a wee bit of a shite to Miriam, might just save us all from nuclear annihilation…. Maybe…

FFS Donald, don’t stop being a wee shite all of a sudden… If ever the world needed a dodgy wee c*#%t with somebody else’s money…


Mia

3 days ago

hahahahahaha!!!

It was worth watching Trump winning if just to make Swinney look like the embarrassment he is, and see all the UK establishment apparatchiks and the cocks in frocks in frantic meltdown.

I hope the first thing Trump does is to eviscerate the deep state and release another load of secret documents. Who knows? We might even find out if this gender id frenzy shite is a form of warfare that has been sponsored and encouraged from the rotten bowels of USA’s secret service.

Looking at how utterly useless Harris, never mind Biden, were at speeches or interviews, one wonders who the hell was the unelected hand governing the USA for the last 4 years.

I heard that black gloves “we did this for Beth” Cole-Hamilton was also supporting the democrat puppet Harris. Goodness, are our entire political class in Scotland puppets on demand from the USA’s Democrats? Looks that way, doesn’t it? Didn’t Dugdale at some point go to support Hillary Clinton’s campaign? Didn’t the political fraud Sturgeon have nothing but praise towards the warmonger Hillary Clinton?

What about the “Greens”, any of them went to support the democrat puppet as well?

When did Scotland become an extension of USA’s deep state?


Confused

3 days ago

elon musk makes shitty electric cars that go on fire and crash, killing people; the chinese make them better and cheaper …

– elon makes a new friend; donald. Donald and Elon are friends.

donald likes tariffs, tariffs on imports, imports from china

tesla share price up 14%

tesla market cap is 900B USD

this is realpolitik.

this is smart.

elon is smart.

are scottish nationalists “smart”

– you gotta do what u need, to get just what you want

rumour has it elon has chipped trump’s brain and now controls him with a playstation gamepad

sam

3 days ago

“Vanishing jobs, disintegrating families and other social stressors had unleashed a rising tide of fatal despair, Case and Deaton concluded. This disturbing trend mirrored what had previously occurred among inner-city Black people in the 1970s and 1980s, Case and Deaton now say. As low-skilled jobs vanished and families broke apart, Black victims of crack cocaine and the AIDS epidemic represented an early wave of deaths of despair. Even today, mortality rates for Black people still exceed those of white people in the United States for a variety of reasons, with Black overdose deaths on the rise over the last few years.

“The most meaningful dividing line [for being at risk of deaths of despair] is whether or not you have a four-year college degree,” Deaton says.”

link to sciencenews.org

Robert Hughes

3 days ago

As an example of where * affirmative action * and other such ludicrous * progressive * abstractions have brought the U.S we now have ( on pro-Democrat US TV * News * channels ) the gob-smacking irony of wealthy , ” successful ” Black female pundits n commentators blaming the Trump victory on ” uneducated White women ” .

That’s right , the defeat of the Democrats had nothing to do with the manifest vacuity of their Presidential Nominee , the overtaking of that Party by * Woke * imbecility , it’s craven promotion and financing of one bloody conflict after another , it’s blundering , woefully inept handling of the Economy and in general it’s remoteness from and contempt of the real concerns of ” ordinary ” people . Nope , none of these things were pertinent factors , it was White Female Trash who stormed their Prog Disneyland and allowed the Great White Shark to enter .

The Caucasian Punditry is also blaming everything & everyone but themselves for this loss , it seem the U.S Electorate were just not appreciative enough of the greatness of the Democrats and * all * it had done for them , the majority voted for The Beast , rather than the benign Angels of Faux Democracy & Divine Censorship

Just like the SNP after it’s recent electoral chibbing , not an iota of honest self-examination necessary , nor the slightest admission of responsibility ; their failure was actually YOUR failure , you ungrateful , unevolved peasant .

Remember that the next they ask you to vote for them


sam

2 days ago

Neither the Democrats or Republicans are ever likely to abandon neoliberal policies despite the harm they do.

Here is a bit of a research looking at the effects of neoliberalism over 4 deacdes in Scotland.

“For those who fared poorly after the initial introduction of neoliberal policy in the 1970s, subsequent policy decisions have served to deepen and entrench negative impacts on the determinants of health. Neoliberalism has constituted a suite of rapidly and concurrently implemented policies, cross-cutting a variety of domains, which have reached into every part of people’s lives.
Conclusions
In formerly industrial parts of west central Scotland, policy developments since the 1970s have generated multiple and sustained forms of deprivation. This case study suggests that a turn away from neoliberal policy is required to improve quality of life and health.”

Public health implications of 4 decades of neoliberal policyL.M. Garnham


Mac

2 days ago

Reading wings twitter account is amusing. I have never seen such delusional people as this current crop of democrats in the US. They are borderline mad. Very similar to the current SNP. They are simply not capable of learning from their mistakes. There seems to be an actual connection as well. Same ‘thing’ has captured both parties…

For now I am just going to enjoy the termination of the worst presidency of the US (at least in my living memory). What a relief that is… The last four years have been fucking horrendous.

Then I will see which Donald Trump shows up for work in January but for now this ‘in between time’ is a vast improvement.

Going forward I think I am just going to assume Trump will be ok but a disappointment like last time and then, if he proves me wrong, it will be a bonus.

Elon Musk really deserves massive credit for saving America. Buying twitter to allow free speech was some move… Everything he did on top as well. Talk about ‘stepping-up’.

He is the one who has emerged from this election as the real star. He always was of course considering his achievements but this was very impressive.


Republicofscotland

Reply to  Geoff Anderson

2 days ago

And there it is – in reality it wouldn’t have mattered who won the the election – behind the scenes, especially on foreign policy nothing really changes.

“Despite both parties preferring to deemphasize foreign policy in their campaigns, US foreign policy is the engine driving domestic policy. This is because modern US domestic politics is fundamentally a game of dividing up the plunder that foreign policy secures.”
“Since WW2, this unilateral global arrangement has been maintained through a mixture of brute force, monopoly control of global institutions, and a healthy dose of quid pro quo with its junior partners that comprise the western world”

Meg Merrilees

Reply to  Republicofscotland

2 days ago

…well, anyone listening to Radio Scotland phone-in around 9.40 this morning would have heard the opinion of a Scottish journalist – one Carlos Alba! He was spouting his opinion on the outcome of the election.
Did he phone-in as a listener, or was he phoned up by the BBC to contribute? Coincidence? Who knows.
Certainly a surprise to this listener …..

gregor

2 days ago

BBC: Nicola Sturgeon to headline comedy festival show:
“The former First Minister will be joined by crime author Val McDermid for a night entitled “Books & Banter” on 22 March at the city’s King’s Theatre…

Revelations galore await…”:

link to archive.ph


Robert Hughes

Reply to  gregor

2 days ago

Maybe she’ll tell the one about how she successfully kidded-on she had a * plan * and for 9 years 1000s of people believed her . If that doesn’t have ’em rolling in the aisles , she could hit them with the hilarious plot her n her ” besties ” cooked-up to – get this …….destroy her former mentor ( boo , hiss etc ) n send him to jail for what could have been the rest of his life and the punchline ……..1000s of people STILL believed she was working tirelessly to achieve Independence

BOOM fck BOOM !

” Spooks ; Pant Suits & The view from the Closet ” .

Cannae wait


Tinto Chiel

Reply to  gregor

2 days ago

Surely the ultimate in “Haud Me Back” entertainment, brought to you by Brass Neck Productions.

Hope there’s a Q&A opporchancity on the night.


TURABDIN

1 day ago

Reference above to Nicola Sturgeon headlining a comedy show called «Books & Banter» in Glasgow next year.
According to the «Dictionars o the Scots leid» website banter means; to rebuke, scold, drive away by scolding. More than a touch of irony in its associations with the referent.
Of course in London patois….
When will so called Scots get a firm grip on that indigenous language thing.


Mac

1 day ago

Did anyone listen to any of Elon Musk’s talks in Pittsburg pre election or on Joe Rogan.

The reasons he gives for intervening in this US election should really alarm people, everywhere.

He explains that despite being 50 states the elections are decided by only 6 (or 7 IIRC) swing states. The rest are are all essentially perma-blue or perma-red.

So win the swing states and you win the election.

Using publicly available data Musk had noticed that ‘someone’ was bringing in large numbers of ‘non-citizens’ to these swing states in an effort to turn them permanently blue.

This in conjunction with no voter ID was designed to turn the US into a one party system with no meaningful elections, it is all essentially decided at the democrat primaries level only.

That is why he said ‘if Trump loses this will be the last election’. Go watch the interview with Rogan, he is deadly serious about it.

And Musk is right. So that in my view is some serious shit. That is like an attempt to install a dictatorial system by undermining American democracy, tre@son. It is that serious.

People should be going to jail for that, or worse.


Mia

Reply to  Mac

1 day ago

“‘someone’ was bringing in large numbers of ‘non-citizens’ to these swing states in an effort to turn them permanently blue”

You can argue that this strategy is exactly what has been going on in Scotland and how Scotland has been forced to remain in the UK. Everybody and their dog, never mind if they had been in Scotland for the grand total of 5 seconds, were given the vote in 2014. We know that the migrants frustrated the yes vote from the natives and this strategy continues today. Nobody has done an study of how many No voters from 2014 moved away from Scotland since then. I know more than a few. I also know about others who had left Scotland over a year before the vote and whose first residence was abroad but, because they still owned a flat in Scotland, they were given the vote.

There is an unnerving parallelism between what has happened in Scotland and what has been happening in USA:

the dodgy postal votes that pushed the dial towards No in Scotland vs the dodgy postal votes that gave Biden the “victory”fabricated charges against Mr Salmond to permanently remove him from politics vs fabricated charges against Trump to remove him from the presidential racegiving the vote to every migrant coming to Scotland vs bringing those “no-citizens” to swing states in USA. No ID necessary to vote in any of the two casesThe gender ID shite taking over the minds, mouths and hands of our political representatives.The unhealthy devotion and explicit bias of Scottish FMs, SNP leadership and UK political parties “branch” managers in favour of USA’s democrats.Looking at this parallelism, one cannot help but wonder if the USA’s deep state has been abusing Scotland and using it as its controlled testing ground of dodgy strategies before deciding if they would be successful in USA.


Robert Hughes

Reply to  Mac

1 day ago

Yes , and this from the Party screaming hysterically about ” Trump the Fascist ” intending to end * Democracy * ( HA ! ) ; round-up all ” right thinking people ” ( guess who they are ? yip , them ) and put them in Concentration Camps and – horrible dictu – maybe spend less money promoting foreign conflicts ( with the exception of The Chosen People’s Holy War , natch – Trump , like the rest of them , is shit-scared of the Moral Exemplars in Tel Aviv ) and more on the people of his own country : what a bastard , eh ?

Mac

1 day ago

The results also confirm 2020 was rigged. Meaning Trump has now won three presential elections in a row. When was the last time that happened I wonder.

Just a thought but if the intel services / deep state are prepared to do that in a US presidential election do you doubt for a second they would have interfered in 2014…

Given the strategic importance of Scotland I’d say it is a certainty at this point.

Let’s also not forget the Donald said on TV back then that he thought the idea of independence was ‘crazy’. So I don’t think he will be helping us as US President sadly.

He was also the sitting president before, during and after the Salmond stich-up… and there was personal animus there with Salmond & the SNP. I’ve always wondered about that one…

So it is impossible not to have very mixed feelings about Donald Trump 2.0. But given the alternative, it was still a no-brainer.

What they evidently had planned under Harris, had they managed to rig it again, was so bad that it mobilized a lot of people, including Elon Musk. Trump himself should not even be alive. He literally dodged a bullet.

We will only know this Trump by the fruit it bears, as always. But I shudder to think of the world would be in right now had they managed to kill him. Crazy times.


Mia

Reply to  Mac

1 day ago

“do you doubt for a second they would have interfered in 2014″

No. Not even for a millisecond.

I am convinced to this day that there was interference from a collusion between USA +UK deep states to block Scotland’s independence.

I am convinced that this interference continues today but amplified by several orders of magnitude.

I am convinced that what Scotland experienced in November 2014 was a deliberate and forced “regime change”, which resulted in a series of neutered and USA/UK fully complying puppets being put in place of what should have been Scotland’s FMs and Scotland’s government.

I have seen nothing in the last 10 years that contradicts any of the above. In fact, every move the SNP has done since 14 November 2014 has served to reinforce the above even more.


Mac

Reply to  Mia

1 day ago

The stitch-up was fashioned around all the ‘Me Too’ stuff in the US, they borrowed heavily on that as that was their own back yard at the time, it is what they knew.

They used that excuse and it also explains the bizarre reaction to Alex working for RT… That totally triggered the US as well.

Personally I suspect they decided to take the reins from London after the ‘fiasco’ of 2014 when we won a referendum we were supposed to lose.

Everything done since then has been very heavy handed, very crude, very woke and very similar to the approach of the US democrats, who are essentially the political wing of the US deep state at this juncture. The Sturgeon SNP are exactly the same as them, clones.

Sturgeon has Hillary as her hero… They do both love a pantsuit. lol. Once you start seeing it, it is everywhere.

robertkknight

Reply to  Mia

1 day ago

Plenty of proof out there if you care to look that the SNP has for nearly a decade been corrupted, compromised and infiltrated at the highest levels by state actors from and on behalf of the US and UK governments, which is why the SNP must be destroyed.

The SNP is to the cause of Scottish Independence what a Matador is to the cause of animal welfare.

Time those who seek to restore Scotland to its former status of an independent, sovereign state woke up to the roadblock that is the SNP… If you can’t go through, go ’round, and if you can’t go ’round, go over!

Tinto Chiel

Reply to  Mia

1 day ago

I agree, Mia, and we have no freedom and democracy because we have no free press. The MSM are merely stenographers for the state and since Covid the pace of authoritarianism and censorship has increased greatly. WEF/Davos-loving Globalist Keir Stürmer will be a lot worse than the Tories because he despises the working class even more than they do.

Elvis C. called it a long time ago but it was probably ever thus, it’s just that only recently has the internet given people access to alternative views, which is why the deep state want so desperately for it to be censored and controlled: link to youtube.com

Explains what happened to the likes of John Maclean, Willie McRae and Alex Salmond, innit?


TURABDIN

Reply to  Mac

1 day ago

Scotland’s geoposition is too important for notions of anglospheric security.
The half Scot President elect sees Scotland as a romantic holiday destination, kilts, hills, golf courses etc.
Misty, insubstantial, inhabited by ghosts of his mother’s past.
I think the Scots diaspora is like that, stuck on an out of date history book page.
Diasporas can be politically reactionary, conservative, unhelpful.


Dan

1 day ago

More on climate Armageddon…
Ach,if we’re all doomed at least Robin had that nice holiday on the other side of the planet earlier this year.
I missed his blog on the carbon neutral journey on a sail ship made from responsibly sourced timber with woven hemp sails.

link to commonweal.scot

I see Craig is still pushing the idea of using solar panels for fencing.

link to commonweal.scot

18 grand of taxpayers’ money spaffed away on fitting 3 4kw solar PV arrays on a large estate owners rented properties, all the panels got placed in the back garden in highly compromised location with a large degree of shading meaning the arrays’ outputs are very low.
The worst array calculated to pay back install costs in just over 30 years! I actually need to recalculate that figure because the arrays being sited on the ground are a maintenance nightmare and now have grass growing over them thus shading even more.

I don’t doubt Robin and Craig’s motivations for us all trying to live a more ecologically and sustainable existence. But there needs to be a serious discussion and reset on some of the ideas and policies that are being developed.
Flawed initiatives do considerable damage to the overall credibility of how we are to live in more sustainable ways.

Vivian O’Blivion

Reply to  Dan

1 day ago

Scot Gov ban on biomass heating in new property and conversions is as of today, officially scrapped. Oil fired burners are still verboten. What’s to stop an enterprising individual from getting a completion certificate on a new build and retro fitting an oil fired central heating burner?

Tiny Pat and loopy Lorna will be pure beelin’.

As the original ban was a “write over” from an amendment to E & W building control regulations, Scottish rural residents will be better off than those south of the border.

Tinto Chiel

Reply to  Dan

1 day ago

The only advantage of the new format seems to be that Tobias Ellwood’s Little Elves who formerly strove ceaselessly to disrupt the site with their relentless negativity (they have the whole of the MSM to indulge themselves, after all, so why here?) seem a bit more reticent now for fear of embarrassment via these new “ratings”.

Otherwise I find the likes/dislikes unhelpful and I have to scroll up and down to keep up with the latest comments now.

Keep going with your Beaver Watch (ooh, matron!) and energy/engineering analysis but I think many equally thoughtful posters have long since departed because of the relentless interference from the aforementioned disruptors in recent years plus the deliberate sabotage of the movement by the SNP “leadership” since AS resigned, which has destroyed our focus and cutting edge.

Sadly, this site has long since stopped being an exchange of fruitful ideas below the line to prepare for a future return to independence for our country but the two factors above seem to me the main reasons.

Our political impasse can only be removed imo by the complete exposure of all those who conspired against Alex Salmond but how this can be achieved within the limits of legal restrictions is a major stumbling block to any progress.

Wings Over Scotland | The Show Goes On


Vivian O’Blivion

1 day ago

There was a story doing the rounds a while back originating from a sales rep for fire suppression equipment. He was in Turnberry trying to sell new fire extinguishers and Donald’s minion was insisting that they be supplied with gold coloured units. The exasperated sales rep was trying to explain that by legislation, they only came in red. Donald’s employee was insistent; “Yeh, but WE want gold ones.”.

Athanasius

1 day ago

Maybe it’s past time people took a step back and asked themselves if this perpetual demonisation of Orange Man — crass, vulgar and loud-mouthed as he may be — is really good for their mental health. He’s not actually a monster; he is, at the most, no worse than any other politician, and if you keep swallowing what the MSM have been shovelling for the last eight years, you’re going to be poisoned.


Robert Hughes

Reply to  Athanasius

1 day ago

Correct . Neither is he the Hitler , Stalin , Pol Pot , Vlad The Impaler or The Monster From The Black Lagoon of delusional ” Liberal ” imagination . The ( hysterical over ) reaction to Trump’s victory , particularly within millionaire celebrity fantasy land has been absolutely hilarious ; all these ridiculous ego-trippers who imagined the * average person * was so enthralled by the sheer wonderfulness of these people they gave a single fuck about their political opinions , or would be influenced to vote as they were being instructed – lectured – to by them . The majority of US public just gave * Hollywood * a massive ” Fuck You ; we chose the person we think will serve us best ” .

Whether he will or not remains to be seen ; but one thing is absolutely clear – most people in the U.S believe the Democrats were not serving their interests , rather they have been serving the interests of everyone and everything other than themselves , ie the American people .

Not only not serving them , but making things more difficult for them in just about every conceivable way , eg rising crime , unchecked ( illegal ) immigration , job losses ,inflation , * woke * infiltration of schools , health services , universities , police , judiciary , all public institutions – just like here in Scotland .

And the same electoral fate awaits the SNP , and for the same reasons listed above . The only thing that may save them is the utter shiteness of the ( so-called ) ” Opposition ” . But given a choice between 3/4 in essence identikit Parties all pushing the same pish , the Scottish Electorate may decide they’ll give Shite Party B the nod , having become simply bored with Shite Party A and believing it ultimately makes no difference what Party is ” in power ” ; they’re all shite and none of them has the will , strength or imagination to do anything other than repeat the same unproductive garbage as their predecessors . And , as things stand , they’re right


Achnababan

Reply to  Athanasius

1 day ago

Rather reluctantly I tend to agree. The Democrats and the soft left with their wokish obsessions have been bad for my community and my country …that’s how I feel. The big corporations are behind wokism in order to disrupt and ultimately destroy communities and sma nations like oours. And they are also bankrolling the transcult. Let’s wait and see if he can drain the swamp…cause there is a bog needing unblocked here tae.

Ian Brotherhood

23 hours ago

Most of us would’ve given anything to see Alex Salmond have the chance to enact his vision for an independent Scotland. It wasn’t to be.

But this guy does have the chance to make the kind of serious changes that we would applaud from the rooftops if they were coming from Alex.

Robert Hughes

Reply to  Ian Brotherhood

22 hours ago

Yes , Ian , I think it will be clear when Trump picks his team whether or not he was serious in his pre-Election statements . If he again surrounds himself with the same warmongering ghouls and Permanent State parasites , we’ll know pretty quickly he wasn’t . If , on the other hand , he drives the latter out and makes use of the talents of people like RFKjnr ( too bad about the latter’s support for the monsters in Z…ist Goshen , other than that aberration , he has a pretty sound grasp of the things that are destroying the U.S and the West generally ) then we may able to consider his victory a good thing for the World .


Robert Hughes

Reply to  znovak

1 hour ago

Your reference to ” Orcs ” tells me all I need to know , and your bizarre statement that I’m ” totally fine with blah blah ” , No , idiot , I’m not ” fine ” with that , or any other incidence of humans killing other humans . Only a half-wit like you could take anything I’ve written on the subject to mean I derive any satisfaction from the death of others – that’s Main’s thing .

The difference between the horror in ME and the Proxy War in U , should be fckn obvious to anyone not thoroughly or wilfully blind : in the former case – 70+ years of oppression , violent theft of land/property and daily brutality under an apartheid system the likes of which people like you can’t even imagine , let alone could endure for one day , never mind an entire life should ever have the misfortune to live under such a regime .

Contrast with the wholly manipulated/contrived Proxy War ; R had been no threat to U until the latter refused to desist in it’s murderous campaign in the R-speaking areas – and why was it doing that , what possible threat was that area to the rest of U ?

Then came the CIA instigated Maidan Coup ; then Z – once elected – totally reversing what he had campaigned and won his election on , ie ” constructive relations with R ” . Instead , he continued with the lethal attacks in Donbass and neighbouring areas ; then the extreme provocation of demanding N.A.T.O membership – right on R’s border ; I’ve asked people like you before , and never got an answer , so , here we go again ……would the US tolerate a hostile country putting long-range missiles in Canada or Mexico ? You know damn well it wouldn’t , but somehow R is expected to tolerate that on it’s border . Don’t make me laugh . The hypocrisy is off-the-scale

All that and the entire lockstepping West MSM & Political Clown Class have the nerve to insult our intelligence by calling R’s response to all this ” Unprovoked ” . Aye , so it was .

War is Hell ; alas ,,,,War is ( also ) Business .

Big Business .

Why do you think the US M.I.C – in particular -is so fond of it , why so much effort is put into it’s creation/promotion and continuance ; and so little effort – zero , in fact – put into the avoidance/ending and ultimate elimination of the human tragedy & failure that War represents ?


Breastplate

21 hours ago

I really don’t understand the euphoria and/or despondency around who becomes the next American president as if it matters to us.
The trajectory will remain the same as always, make the rich richer and the poor poorer.
The idea that we should place our faith in one set of liars over another set is completely bonkers mad, even more so when it’s sets of liars from a completely different country.

This Trump rhetoric was done to death 8 years ago when he was going to blow up the entire world as there was nothing surer.
Ah well, no doubt, he’s going to blow the world up, all over again.

I’m off to dig out a bunker for myself.


Mac

20 hours ago

I am glad the democrats like the Sturgeon SNP are completely incapable of learning anything from their defeats.

I don’t want them to improve as they are dangerous IMHO, they are the exact opposite of ‘democrats’.

They also seem to think if they just keep repeating the same tedious lies over and over again that somehow one day people will finally believe them. Years of all that Ru$$ia shite, and it was total and complete pish. The dodgy dossier blah blah blah. It is really boring.

Trump has lot of things you could really criticize him about (bombing Syria after a false flag, supporting a gen0cide and ethnic cleansing and so on) but they consistently ignore those faults and just make up all this nonsense.

And then they are all butthurt and confused when Trump beats them for the umpteenth fucking time in a row. FFS…

It is madness. And long may it continue. The parallels between the Sturgeon SNP and the US democrats are very evident. Both absolutely toxic right now. (This is where the corruption of the SNP has come from I suspect. Same thing has captured both parties.)

The US democrats sold themselves out to the deep state in return for perpetual power. And they nearly got away with it….

You can’t ever forget nor forgive that. In fact you’d be mad to. Because they will try again.


twathater

Reply to  Campbell Clansman

7 hours ago

I have asked you and your fellow unionists a few times to list some of the benefits of being in this repugnant union with THIEVES yet ALL you ever do is demean and denigrate anything to do with Scotland or Scots , your liking for the engerlish ringpiece is evident in everything you post
IF you truly were Scottish you would be outraged like the rest of us that our countries resources are being utilised for everyone else’s benefit bar Scots

Your evident glee and gloating about Scotland’s woes just marks you as the tractor you are
You are not fooling anyone

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